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Stirrings of Secession

far2right Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 8:42 AM
Holy cr@p. I can't believe how stupid this statement is. Secession is an unalienable right for any sovereign entity to do - IF IT CAN. The colonies did exactly that to begin this country. And at a great price. But they were successful. You would reason that what the colonies did was illegal. When the southern states declared the oppression of the northern states illegal and a violation of their rights, they seceded. But they could not win the day against the northern offensive.
curmudgeon10 Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 2:06 PM
th confederates did not have the resources to follow up on first manassas. they were lucky to win the battle at all. they had a sure win, however, if they had been willing to free their slaves, on the provision that they evacuate the country and go to the northern states. that would have had the federal govement begging for peace. the southerners, however, just like our dear obama voters, were accustomed to living off the sweat of another man's brow, and were not about to give up their mastery of others. our obama voters feel the same way. they are entitled to the fruits of the labor of others.
Texas Chris Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 10:07 AM
I would argue the South lost because they refused to commit violence on Northern, sovereign soil. Had the confederates taken DC at the Battle of Bull Run, the South would have been successful.

It's a hard decision. Is it permissible to invade a nation to gain independence from that nation? Would George Washington have been justified in sailing to Britain and laying siege to the crown? My heart tells me no... And therefore the South maintained the moral high ground and thereby lost the war.
"When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another ..."

So begins the Declaration of Independence of the 13 colonies from the king and country to which they had given allegiance since the settlers first came to Jamestown and Plymouth Rock.

The declaration was signed by 56 angry old white guys who had had enough of what the Cousins were doing to them. In seceding from the mother country, these patriots put their lives, fortunes and honor on the line.

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