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The Malicious Mangling of the Virgin Mary

Fabius Cunctator Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 11:51 PM
RE: Rich D. 11:01 11/16/2012 RE: Sola Scriptura (1/2) My response: Rich D., you do not understand what I said about Sola Scriptura. Protestants think, fallaciously, that the Bible alone is the authority for Christian doctrine: this is what Sola Scriptura means. But this is a false theory because the Bible nowhere says that it alone is the teaching authority for Christians.
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 1:11 PM

"You are incorrect. Sola Scripture means that the Scriptures contains all that is necessary for salvation and righteous living." (Bogus.)

That's the meaning if Scripture is correctly interpreted. No false meanings may be attached by sinful men to the Word of God. This is the warning of Paul to the Galatians (Gal 1. "Anathema.)

It is only correctly discerned in the Holy Spirit. With his Church.

Fabius Cunctator Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 5:39 AM
RE: Rich D. 12:22 AM 11/17/2012
RE: Assumption opf the Blessed Virgin Mary
My response:
You are leaving out the Holy Spirit. The Assumption is correct doctrine because of the Bible and the Holy Spirit. Your "conundrum" contention is a straw man.
Fabius Cunctator Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 5:34 AM
RE: Rich D. 12:13 AM 11/17/2012
RE: Sola Scriptura
My response:
How did Christians survive before everybody had a Bible? Where did Jesus Christ say that you will saved only when you read the Bible?
Rich D. Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 12:59 AM
Errors (sorry) contains = contain, you = your, of = or.
kfisher927 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 12:35 AM
Fabius Cunctator,

All Catholic Doctrine is base on the Scriptures as interpreted by the Church Fathers. The "Sin of Onan" is one used to condemn artificial birth control as well as others!

The Protestants would not even have the Bible that is missing Seven plus of the orignial books if it hadn't been for Catholic Monks who painstakinly transcribed and hand wrote the Holy Scriptures that were declared as valid by the Church Fathers in the 5th and 6th Centuries at the Councils. Many of those Monks died defending the Scriptures.

God Have Mercy On America,
Kenneth M. Fisher, Founding Director
Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc.


Rich D. Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 12:22 AM
All computers are green. That does not contradict anything in Scripture. Remember, YOU claimed sola Scripture as a defense for RC doctrine. I didn't bring it up.

And don't play that victim card - I bashed nothing and nobody. Argue my points.

You defense is that you can pronounce anything a doctrine if it doesn't contradict. Well, a sinless Mary contradicts both explicitly and implicitly.

Regarding the Assumption, it is not contradicted by Scripture, but is not attested by it either. So, then, I ask for the third of fourth time, upon what in Scripture is it based? If nothing, then your claim to a Biblically based set of doctrines is false. You can't see the conundrum.
Rich D. Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 12:13 AM
You are incorrect. Sola Scripture means that the Scriptures contains all that is necessary for salvation and righteous living. There is a difference between that and what you claim that it is. Your claim is a distortion of the truth by your church. Will you say that there is something necessary for salvation that is NOT contained in Scripture. How about righteous living?

If there is a need for something outside of Scripture, what is it (are they)?
Fabius Cunctator Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 11:52 PM
RE: Rich D. 11:01 11/16/2012
RE: Sola Scriptura (2/2)
My response:
However, Roman Catholic doctrine cannot contradict anything that is in the Bible: this is not Sola Scriptura like you imply with your specious argument, purposely meant to confuse people and make yourself look like a champion Catholic basher. For instance, Catholic doctrine says that contraception is a sin. But the Bible does not say that. However, Catholic doctrine on this issue is infallible doctrine because of the teaching authority of the Holy Spirit that resides in the pope, and because it does not contradict anything that is in the Bible.
A Christian can be crushed gazing at the picture of Mary standing at the foot of the cross, watching her beloved son suffocate and die. But in that vision, she stands there for hours, patiently enduring her suffering. For two millennia, she has been a role model for Christians, a woman who practiced obedience in the most difficult of human circumstances, with fervent hope for what this sacrifice will offer all mankind as it struggles with sin.

This is why it seems so hard to reflect that vision of patience when black-hearted "artists" practice character assassination on the Blessed Virgin...