You totally agree with someone who starts with a false premise and then builds on it. See my citation above.

What is it with the use of ALL on this board? No, not all Dems were for the war. Most? No. Most conservatives? Yes Only one no vote in the Senate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution But the point is that they were lied to by the Bush admin. There is a reason for my screen name.

And VA is pretty good in state to state comparisons. But states who have done better than VA have volunteered to try them. So good argument, but has its flaws.

Suburban Boston is Democratic and has some of the finest school systems in the country... Probably best not to play the Party Card. And some of the worst states are conservative Republican. And some of the better districts in the country are Repub dominated. Party can be a problem, but it is local and specific.

All? It is a little over 60% of public school teachers. The worst states like those in the Deep South have lower union membership the better states have higher union participation. I don't know where parents have no power. Not where I have taught. Both major teachers unions as far as I know are for raising standards required to enter into the teaching field. Congratulations on your ability to predict the future.

restoreliberty, he did not conveniently leave it out. It wasn't part of the orginal argument which was local (bottom up_ vs. federal (top down) control. Please note the US has never had anything close to federal control of schooling.

Sounds like you missed the Bush push for war in Iraq...

Anonymous you are an idiot (not sarcasm).

Yes, with your clear citation of evidence I see you are correct that it is communism (sarcasm).

You have made it clear why my arguments made no sense. Thank you (sarcasm).

Don't get the amphibole reference. No, our public education system is a local system, run by locals - districts and states. Are unions involved? Yes. But they are not the decider of curriculum or instruction. They have a seat at the table, and that is all.