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erniel58 Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 5:06 PM
Funny stuff. Does the author really believe the modern Bible was not constructed by groups of people deciding which parts to keep and which to discard? That is precisely how the Bible came about. Not only did large swaths get left on the cutting room floor when various Catholic special interest groups imposed their politics on the ancient texts, but many parts were later edited by English clerics during their "interpretation" of the King James version. If you choose to believe something on faith (and we all do) whether it be science or doctrine, think carefully about the source and do your own research. If it leads you to conclude that it's okay to wage war, forcibly control others, or wreck the planet you may want to reconsider.
Richard19 Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 6:24 PM
Don't forget that if God exists, and surely he does, that He could be the final word on what is kept and what's thrown out of the Bible. God works through people undoubtedly. If God sent His word to us, he would be the one to make sure the message he intends is kept intact. A lot of people have had spiritual experiences. If you have one you will know it. Love is the central focus of God's word.
Rich D. Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 7:16 PM
Agreed. The canon wasn't decided by a few in a conference or two.
David3036 Wrote: Sep 27, 2012 1:15 AM
So, did God work through Joseph Smiith? He claims to have had a spiritual experience.

And why, if God is making sure the message is intact, are there so many contradictions in the Bible?
Rich D. Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 6:11 PM
If you would like to place your scholarship against the scholarship of centuries of researchers who have identified the basic message in over 13,000 manuscripts and fragments that are in essential agreement, I'd be willing to listen. I read the Masoretic Text and the NA27.

Those groups were a response to much later corruptions of the message. The accepted texts and doctrines were canonized by widespread usage. The Catholic church in those initial meetings only affirmed what was in use - they did not choose them and impose them. Your last paragraph is a generour non sequitur.

The remark about the Authorized Version makes no sense.
Rich D. Wrote: Sep 26, 2012 6:12 PM
generour = generous. Sorry.
Andy372 Wrote: Sep 27, 2012 2:20 PM
Dead on, Rich. The number of people who believe what ernie does because of fiction books and fictionalized accounts is truly appalling. The truth of what occurred at the Council of Nicea is quite inspirational, and amazing.
One of my readers reached out to me a couple of years ago with the hope that I could help him communicate with his prodigal nephew. The kid had grown up in a Christian home and seemed to be doing well until he enrolled at a local community college. It was there that he decided to abandon his conservative and Christian beliefs. Even worse than that, he decided to replace them by joining a neo-pagan cult. I will not mention the group by name as I do not want to give them more attention than they deserve.

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