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The Senate Must Reject Hagel

ericynot Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 10:34 AM
He'll probably be better than Rumsfeld.
Duke Nuk'em Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 11:45 AM
A cabinet, and regime, of dunces.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52881
jvance Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 10:48 AM
Not even close, Hagel like Obozo don't have a clue.
Tonto Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 10:54 AM
Obama has to surround himself with idiots like Hagel and Biden to make himself feel superior. Obama has some real ego issues....like he KNOWS he's actually worthless and way over his head. Nero or Caligula complex. Hope he gets the very same end.
ericynot Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 11:01 AM
jvance,

Rumsfeld said the Iraq war would take no more than 5 months and cost $50 billion. It's hard to be more clueless than that.
Donald6189 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 11:58 AM
Oh I don't know eric, it's not like Rumsfeld blamed a video for a terrorist attack on an embassy or anything, I know that wasn't Hagel, but it was the guy wanting to hire him.
ericynot Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 12:25 PM
Donald,

Rumsfled (and others in the GWB administration) blamed an entire war, which cost more than 100,000 lives and more than a trillion dollars, on non-existent WMDs. We had the equivalent of Benghazi every day for more than 8 years in Iraq.
Elisabeth26 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 1:36 PM
Look closely. The WMD in Iraq was bad intel -- but I think you're seeing them now being used in Syria -- and likely stockpiled in Iran, Syria and Afghanistan. The war did cost more than 100,000 lives, but not more than 100,000 American lives -- just be clear. I'm not saying one is worth more than another -- I just like the Americans better.
ericynot Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 2:47 PM
Elisabeth,

It wasn't "bad intel", it was phony intel. And the White House knew it, as did Rumsfeld. Some of it was forged, some of it was supplied by people of highly dubious character (remember Ahmed Chalabi?), and it was pushed hard by the Israel lobby and their neocon cohorts in Washington.

In short, the whole thing was ginned up, and now we're paying the price with massive lingering war debt and a more unstable Middle East than we had before the war, not to mention thousands of physically and emotionally damaged vets such as the guy who killed SEAL Chris Kyle over the weekend. We are reaping the whirlwind.
Magna Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 6:27 PM
Are those the same non existent chemical weapons that Saddam used on his neighbors Iran and the Kurds ? And was later confirmed confirmed to have been manufacturing at mobile sites to avoid detection by the UN inspectors and later our military -so as usual you Leftists believe what you wish and distort the rest and the media is your dedicated megaphone does not make it so.The truth is out there and those who know the truth will always remember it .Will you believe it if I show you some magazines from your own left spin Ideology groups that show Iraq using chemical weapons on these people -do you believe he just destroyed them when the war began with us ? If so you are a fool .
karpe diem Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 1:08 AM
stay on the subject of Hagel. the above has nothing to do with him and the way he is showing himself to be a 'leader".

The Senate's "advice and consent" role doesn't require it to rubber-stamp a presidential appointee for secretary of defense who senators believe would weaken America in this increasingly dangerous world.

Notwithstanding former Sen. Chuck Hagel's diminished view of the post -- "I won't be in a policymaking position" -- the secretary of defense is an exceedingly important position and must be filled with someone who understands the complexity and gravity of the threats we face.

In his testimony at his confirmation hearing, Hagel demonstrated a remarkable unwillingness to clarify his past statements, a stunning misapprehension of the identity, intentions and capabilities...