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The Unraveling of Obama's Foreign Policy

Emilie3 Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 2:56 PM
Yes, maybe Europe shoudn't have stuck their nose in there and rearranged the borders, etc. It was Britain that was most responsible, no?
william704 Wrote: Oct 03, 2012 11:12 AM
or perhaps the roman centurions. the only real way to deal with the middle east is to nuke it into a sea of glass from the pacific to the black sea.
JustMC Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 8:11 PM
Let me pile on and agree further. My read on the history is that the Brits and French did most of the border-drawing. Wilson was horse-trading ANYTHING just to get the League of Nations agreed to. Wilson's greatest sin was lying outright and getting us into the war to begin with. A war that should (and could) have ended as a testament to the futility of such war, with no moral high ground on either side.

But that would have cost a bunch of VERY rich Americans (JP Morgan and some others) a lot of money in unpaid war loans. So, if one wants to understand history, WWI is a shining example of a criminal bailout of private debt. Paid for with the blood of American boys, and the treasure of the American public who was never invested.
RyanM Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 6:07 PM
And France, too. See the Sykes–Picot Agreement.
PhillupSpace2 Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 3:38 PM
President Woodrow Wilson was also very influential in where the borders were drawn.

There was enough Hubris to go around. Had they more accurately separated them into Tribal regions there may well have been less conflict. Iraq alone has Kurds in the north, Suni in the middle and Shia in the south! That sure was smart, right!

You only have to watch the movie, "Laurence Of Arabia to see how volitle it can get when you congregate all these people, even when assembled to fight a common war.
scott s. Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 3:36 PM
Well, I guess it was Napoleon Bonaparte who went into Egypt pretty much kicking things off.

Three days after Ambassador Chris Stevens was assassinated, Jay Carney told the White House press corps it had been the work of a flash mob inflamed by an insulting video about the Prophet Muhammad.

As the killers had arrived with rocket-propelled grenades and automatic weapons, this story seemed noncredible on its face.

Yet two days later, U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice doubled down.

Appearing on five Sunday talk shows, she called the massacre the result of a "spontaneous" riot that was neither "preplanned" nor "premeditated."

Carney and Rice deceived us. But were they deceived?

It is impossible to believe that Carney would...