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Government Shouldn't Define 'Church'

eddie again Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 4:14 PM
the government cannot grant or rescind unalienable rights. they exist for every individual by reason of their humanity. unalienable rights exist only for individual human beings. the Declaration of Independence is the foundational law and the basis for all subsequent legitimate lawmaking in the usa. no law in the usa is legitimate if it contradicts or contravenes the Declaration of Independence. the right to worship a benevolent Creator does not come from the federal government. it is the founding principle of our entire legal structure.
Carl469 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 8:48 PM
The Declaration of Independence is not law and was not intended as such. It was rhetoric. No reputable scholar would argue otherwise. The Constitution is the basis of our laws.
Emilie3 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 5:43 PM
Mr. Thomas quotes: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". then why are "churches" given tax-free status? I don't think government should provide an elective thing like brith control or abortion, nor do I think government should allow certain entities to be given a tax break when not everyone avails themselves of such. I think it is abominable how some church leaders live like pashas with private planes, mansions, etc. Now we have Muslim mosques and thousands of those "believers" getting tax breaks, etc. Religion to me is a private choice, and should not be supported monetarily by the government, but those that profess a religion should be free to practice it privately without affecting the rest of us.
Rich D. Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 6:16 PM
Quote the rest of it - "...or prohibiting the FREE exercise thereof..."

Not taxing something is not the same as subsidizing it, nor is it a tax break as the law establishes religions as untoucable by the government.
Jack2894 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 7:27 PM
The law in no way establishes religions as untouchable. If you think it is, then why are all those Catholic priests in so much trouble?
Rich D. Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 1:36 AM
Don't be a maroon - you have no debating skills at all, so give up.
wmou Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 4:36 PM
That was mostly true prior to FDR. Now we are free to worship, when where and how the central government dictates.
Emilie3 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 5:50 PM
The government doesn't dictate to me where and when and how I "worship". I am concerned about business people making statements that are politically motivated. I feel they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Sure, some people now purposefully go to Chick'fil-A and Hobby Lobby, but just as many avoid the places due to the controversy, since they don't need to go to cheap chain stores.
wmou Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 6:08 PM
If you are a teacher, are you Free to pray aloud in class? Before FDR, the answer was, depends on the state constitution, today the central govts dictates NO.
wmou Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 6:14 PM
Govt buildings and Memorials with Christian symbols were the norm before FDR, today the central govt dictates NO The central govt dictates to the states and the people.
Jack2894 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 7:26 PM
The Constitution dictates.
Jack2894 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 4:35 PM
SO I wonder what your take is on Dennis Prager's article, where he argues there is no problem with taking away someone's right to life if it meets his criteria for being just.

Under pressure from religious and conservative groups, the Obama administration has offered another compromise on the issue of birth control coverage within the Affordable Care Act. While exempting churches and some religiously affiliated institutions, such as hospitals and universities, from supplying the coverage, the new proposal calls for their employees to receive stand-alone private insurance policies providing birth control coverage at no cost. Insurance companies will foot the bill, but only the naive can possibly think the cost won't find its way back to the institution in the form of higher health premiums.

Numerous lawsuits filed against this and other portions...