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Piers Morgan Wants to Amend Moses

Earl29 Wrote: Dec 28, 2012 9:48 AM
The Ten Commandments condemns adultery; it does not assess a penalty. The penalty came from the people, not God. It's that old "free will" thing again.
Andy544 Wrote: Dec 28, 2012 11:13 AM
Read Leviticus Chapter 18, God's DIRECT word to Moses concerning sexual sins, including adultery. God Himself prescribed DEATH as the penalty (Leviticus 18:29). The Jewish people did not just 'pull' the death penalty for adultery out of 'thin air'
Donjindra Wrote: Dec 28, 2012 11:54 AM
What exactly do you think it means to say an offender must be cut off from the people? In a theocracy such as Israel, I suppose that could be banishment. But the USA is not a theocracy so there is no "people" to be cut off from. In our world, at most it would refer to the sect. And in this sense I would say a church has every right to cut off sinners from its membership. They'd have no members, though.
DCM in FL Wrote: Dec 28, 2012 11:59 AM
"I would say a church has every right to cut off sinners from its membership. They'd have no members, though."

Practically speaking, it's not a question of simply "sinners," but of consistently unrepentant ones (though why such people even want to be accepted by a church is a whole 'nother question).
DCM in FL Wrote: Dec 28, 2012 12:17 PM
You're saying you think nearly 100% of all church members can be described as "consistently unrepentant sinners"?

Maybe a specific church that made you not want to go to church is like that. Otherwise, your statement is ridiculous.
Donjindra Wrote: Dec 28, 2012 12:32 PM
Tell me how many churches preach that their members are now 100% free of sin and have reached perfection?

In many cases they merely look the other way. For example, most (if not all) cases of second marriage would have to be considered examples of continuing unrepentant sin.
DCM in FL Wrote: Dec 28, 2012 12:41 PM
"Tell me how many churches preach that their members are now 100% free of sin and have reached perfection?"

None that I know of. What does that have to do with willful, continuing, unrepentant sin?

"For example, most (if not all) cases of second marriage would have to be considered examples of continuing unrepentant sin."

No, they wouldn't. Not even close. The Bible doesn't say any such thing, and doesn't even appear to unless you incorrectly impose a modern meaning of "divorce" on the word translated as such.
Donjindra Wrote: Dec 28, 2012 1:08 PM
"The Bible doesn't say any such thing, and doesn't even appear to unless you incorrectly impose a modern meaning of "divorce" on the word translated as such. "

What's your translation? And if the "modern" divorce is so different why isn't "modern" marriage?

DCM in FL Wrote: Dec 28, 2012 1:13 PM
You seem to have been thinking of the passage about "marrying a divorced woman equals adultery." In that passage and others, "divorced" doesn't refer to anything like modern divorce; it refers to something called "putting away" a wife which left her destitute while actually *denying* her a proper divorce.

That's why the notion of second marriages equalling unrepentant sin is wrong.
Donjindra Wrote: Dec 28, 2012 1:31 PM
So in your opinion, serial sexual relationships are okay? Relationships can be discarded on a whim? Where is the "sanctity" of marriage in all of this?

Fresh off his attack on America’s gun control laws, Piers Morgan set his sights on another set of laws that trouble him, the laws of Moses and the Bible. But before he called for an amendment to the Bible to recognize “gay rights,” Morgan actually asked his guest, Pastor Rick Warren, a very fair question, and Warren stumbled in his answer.

Of course, Morgan’s timing could not have been worse. After all, this was a Christmas Eve interview with a Christian leader, and Morgan is not exactly riding a wave of popularity. And to compare the Bible to the Constitution shows...