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FDA May Relax Ban on Gay Men Donating Blood

du2 Wrote: Nov 15, 2014 12:07 PM
It's not 'their' disease. It's not genetic, HIV can infect anyone, and orientation and gender are no immunity from it. Heterosexual blacks, with a higher percentage among black women, are also a high risk group. At one point there was a serious spike among the elderly. Many people were infected because of being misinformed of the most at risk group. And it's not a coincidence blacks share similar infection rates. But a CONFLUENCE and legacy of isolation from more information and access to health care, distrust of the medical establishment (which has betrayed both minorities before), and prejudice. I've been a volunteer for a long time for AIDS Project LA and the Black Woman's Health Study. There isn't anyone with that much of a pedigree on this thread to help out with being truthful and informed. You're welcome.
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Time To Obey God Rather Than Man

du2 Wrote: Nov 10, 2014 3:10 PM
What it's supposed to have taught me? I have eyes and ears and PERSONAL EXPERIENCE to teach me that being religious doesn't equal morally irrefutable or sound. Indeed, much of the opposite has been true, THROUGH even recent history I'm an eyewitness to.
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Time To Obey God Rather Than Man

du2 Wrote: Nov 10, 2014 3:08 PM
Michael Brown has cut off dissent on his FB pages. This is true of every known group that is anti gay with their own pages, or websites. Your last sentence exemplifies the kind of terminal denial of what your ACTIONS actually are. Whether they are written or spoken. You refuse to understand (or own), the difference in inciting distrust and hostility towards gay people that has and does result in discrimination, physical threat and assault. Even on gay children or those thought to be. Actions always speak louder, and if your actions quack like a duck, walk and fly like a duck, it's a duck.
Gov, Jerry Brown went to the funeral of a special deputy serving a warrant for a gang member. But I just KNOW he's not going to do that for the two sheriff's deputies from the Sacramento area, murdered by a twice deported illegal immigrant FELON using several aliases in three states law enforcement stopped bothering to look for. It's because of sanctuary policies maintained by every governor, to other elected officials and law enforcers (including the state AG), who keep piling on more and more incentives to break the law. What they do, is eliminate any standards that ARE law, and simply make them lesser or go away altogether. No citizen or anyone else VICTIMIZED by illegal immigrants IS taken as seriously as the people who shouldn't be here in the first place. So much misery could have been prevented, were there enforcement taken to it's necessary extent. There IS a path to citizenship, the immigrants that choose to not take it, deserve to be shown the door, not any form of rewards just because they demand them.
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Time To Obey God Rather Than Man

du2 Wrote: Nov 09, 2014 12:28 PM
You're not answering my question. No one here but us mere mortals. And it's always been that way. I already obey the laws of the kind that already bears positive results for society and in my personal life. I'm not in favor of other mortals deciding FOR ME and other human beings, who is fit to live, how to live, just because some people's religious teaching is forced in that way. But since the results of genuine fairness, living the Golden Rule, and trying compassion instead of control first, speak for themselves...then there isn't another person can tell me other people aren't worthy of all of this, based on what they think God tells them, that contradicts these actions. Actions, how one treats another person, will always matter more than what anyone SAYS about God or what they think of God. And when those actions are cruel, unequal, unjust....I'm at least honest about that. And people like Michael Brown, are not.
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Time To Obey God Rather Than Man

du2 Wrote: Nov 09, 2014 12:21 PM
The TC are guidelines for PERSONAL conduct, which shouldn't require the gov't by law to enforce. We have civil liberty with respect to generally treating another as we'd expect to be treated by a fellow citizen. But the history of this country, the brutality against indigenous peoples, the history of slavery, the subjugation of women and the cruelty against gay people, pretty much proves however dominant Christianity has become, the TC won't apply to those who continue to demand to have the greater influence over still vulnerable populations because of the aforementioned legacy. Trust, is a powerful and meaningful aspect of a civil society. But just because most Christians demand being trusted, doesn't mean they deserve, have earned or should have it just because they WANT it.
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Time To Obey God Rather Than Man

du2 Wrote: Nov 09, 2014 12:10 PM
Hi Elvis, appreciate your comment. How about this? I have been visiting TH for a long, long time. And I know Michael Brown and his opinions very well. The problem with the issue of science, is that I'm witnessing certain people like Brown, Matt Barber, Mike Adams, regular contributors here, ignore any scientific facts that aren't convenient to their religious worldview. Especially regarding a specific type of person. What tends to happen are endless demands for proof, rhetorical questions and terminal denial. No amount of proof, or evidence or being guided through a process of elimination or simple consciousness moves them. I recognize the values of a supremacist when I see them. And no amount of religious piety, claim and affiliation to God and Christ makes one human superior over another. A dangerous folly that some vulnerable people are still living down, no matter that even without scientific evidence, there is immeasurable proof that the moral ethics of equal justice, opportunity and rights under the laws, hasn't harmed anyone or anything, BUT that notion of supremacy.
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Time To Obey God Rather Than Man

du2 Wrote: Nov 09, 2014 12:03 PM
Guess you didn't hear all the facts, about what happened in TX. Figures. The churches and their pastors SUED to be exempt from politicking restrictions and their churches. Hence, the pastors were required to give over evidence as part of discovery for their own case. Mayor Parker was following that law. The pastors opened that door, not the mayor. And the nastiness that erupted from Christians, their lies and neverending claims of persecution, made her rescind that request. Another example of Christians throwing stones from glass houses, and resenting it when someone can see into that house.
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Time To Obey God Rather Than Man

du2 Wrote: Nov 07, 2014 10:37 AM
1. Who is going to make themselves the lieutenants that enforce any laws thought to be of God? 2. Who is going to make anyone obey these laws? 3. And which people are going to be more required to obey than others? Has history taught Brown anything? One only has to look at the history of Europe and the impetus to create the Constitution and Bill of Rights. And look at how Muslim radicals interpret their religious texts. In fact, these Middle Eastern tribalist groups that we see enforcing their idea of God's laws, are more a model of how Biblical cultures treated their fellow human beings. Creating an environment of fear and ignorance in order to maintain control. Especially over the socio/politically vulnerable. Ignoring any historical, scientific or social progress in favor of division and fear mongering of non believers or people who are simply different. Christians are quite capable of the same things that they point fingers at others for doing. Hypocrisy and using fear and ignorance and silencing dissent is never far behind people who call for 'obeying God's laws'.
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Lesbian Extremist Mayor Must Go -- Now

du2 Wrote: Nov 03, 2014 4:51 PM
Majorities, just because they are majorities, doesn't mean they are right. The will of the people can be irrational, unjust and dangerous. Evidently, you've forgotten that TX was once a Jim Crow state. Well, of course it's easy to forget that if you've never experienced it. For real.
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Lesbian Extremist Mayor Must Go -- Now

du2 Wrote: Nov 03, 2014 4:49 PM
The pastors themselves sued to be able to politick in their churches, and the subpeona is part of the discovery process. The pastors opened the door to legal scrutiny, now Barber and everyone else is crying foul because they have to be subjected to the same laws as anyone else filing a lawsuit. This is pastors demanding special accommodation for breaking the political trust between church and state. Mayor Parker didn't write these laws, and this is what happens when anyone who'd enforce them (as their office warrants), gets treated. She happens to be gay, so of course, Barber is going to come for her as this would or should have occurred if anyone else held the same office. And still isn't happy the decision was reversed.
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