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“Gay Sin” Survey Reveals We’re Playing God on Moral Questions

dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Jan 18, 2013 7:17 PM
We aren't playing God unless we insist on judging those who disobey Him. He says in the OT, "Vengeance is mine; I shall repay." However, it's not bigotry merely to state the truth; that sodomy is a dirty vice. That its devotees are sick. That they are immoral according to the written Word of God. And as a faithful Catholic I always admit some potential in every sinner, queers too; to repent of the evil they've done. God is merciful to them. Not only to heterosexual sinners.
David3036 Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 6:11 AM
And because you and millions of other people call it "a dirty vice"... because you tell "queers" they are "sick" and immoral... because the pope calls being gay "objectively disordered" and "intrinsically evil," gay kids by the thousands are bullied and even killed by the children you have taught to think as you do.

And thousands of those gay kids who are persecuted for something they know they cannot change commit suicide. It is a national tragedy, and you and every other "faithful Catholic" who believes as you do must take some responsiblity for the spilled blood.

The Rev. Mel White calls it "spiriual violence." It is not Christian, and it must stop.
Cambermeister Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 10:16 AM
"thousands of those gay kids who are persecuted for something they know they cannot change commit suicide"

Oh the Humanity! I live in California. The homosexuals pretty much run the place. They get whatever they want...including access to the children of others. Does David's post make a little more sense now? Whenever you hear 'Bullying'...it's homosexual code for 'can we have some time with the mind of your child'.
David3036 Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 1:52 PM
Once again, Cambie, you dishonestly attempt to blur the line between homosexuality and pedophilia. Your children are at far greater risk from heterosexuals than from gays, but it's a common tactic in the culutre wars to create fear that gays are after your children.

The Child Molestation Research and Prevention Institute notes that 90 percent of molesters target children in their network of family and friends. Nicholas Groth, a pioneer in the field of sexual abuse of children, says that the typical pedophile cannot be considered homosexual or heterosexual because "he often finds adults of either sex repulsive" and often molests children of both sexes. The American Psychological Assoc. says gay men are NOT more likely to be abusers
dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 2:02 PM

Dear Robert,

Spare us the crocodile tears about "gay kids." They aren't gay, they are at the least effeminate; not manly kids. That's why bad kids don't like them. Homosexuals, FYI, are not socially accepted in normal society.. That's a result of their rotten living.

They are indeed, sometimes persecuted. Should normal people apologize for that? Why? I have no intention of apologizing for the inevitable results of another person's sins. If he was publicly a man of good will, why would he be fair game for the bullies? That's a situation HE has created, with your homosexual agenda in our country. Normal people would much rather be fair and non-confrontational.
David3036 Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 3:21 PM
I must have missed something that was posted by "Robert." Nevertheless, I am struck by your lack of compassion for abused kids. It is the hateful propaganda about gays that contributes to this violence. It comes from you, from the pulpit, and from anti-gay "family" organizations. And, as you imply, it isn't even necessarily based on someone's "sin" -- just acting effeminate is enough to trigger actions by the bullies. Kids as young as 11 who have never come close to having sex are victims.

Cambermeister seems to think that California is immune to gay suicides and "bullycides" because gays "run everything," but that's just not true. Hollywood and San Francisco are NOT California, and gay kids in rural areas are bullied mercilessly.
David3036 Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 3:43 PM
Here's what just one quick google search comes up with:

- Dec 5, 2012 – Parents of a gay Michigan teen who committed suicide last month say bullying is to blame for their son's death.

Jun 14, 2012 – Brandon Elizares, a 16-year-old from El Paso, Tex., took his own life early this month after being bullied and threatened at school because of his sexuality

Jan. 13, 2012 - Eric James Borges, a gay teen who made an ‘It Gets Better’ video and worked in suicide prevention program, committed suicide

These are the tip of the iceberg. Last year, 84.6% of LGBT students reported being verbally harassed, 40.1% reported being physically harassed and 18.8% reported being physically assaulted at school in the past year
dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 4:22 PM

Quit your hypocrisy. No one has license to harm another soul; not for religious or any other reasons. You are selectively claiming persecution. A young homosexual who kills himself does it on account of his own, personal reasons. Not BECAUSE of being mistreated. For all the suicides you cite there are hundreds or thousands who continue living queerly totally unconcerned.

I do NOT blame myself; nor should anybody's compassion extend to exonerating the sinner. My real compassion is for his damnation; which will surely come. I feel truly alarmed about him losing his immortal soul clinging to a dirty vice.


dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 4:30 PM

The fact of it is, those suicides are guilt-driven, not caused by bullying. You have young depraved men who actually realize (themselves, without anyone to blame) how negative their lives are. How unhealthy and debased they are becoming. They do what the devil tells them; DON'T try going back to God; take your own life. He tells them __BE DEFIANT; better to quit living!__

David3036 Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 4:32 PM
These are CHILDREN, dammit. Try having a little compassion for a change! It is hard enough to be a teenager without being vilified by your peers, and simply telling a kid he is damned to hell is abuse in itself. It is not for you to judge what will happen to his "immortal soul."
dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 4:36 PM


The real "tip" is you actual icebergs, who condone and hope to justify a VILE evil; thereby discouraging youths repentance.

That is the iceberg causing so many young suicides! The homosexual agenda which keeps saying they are blameless victims. Well; they AREN'T!
Those kids are hounded by their own guilt.

David3036 Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 4:42 PM
Those gay kids who have accepting families are not hounded by guilt, but they are hounded by the thugs in school who have learned their attitudes from you.

There is no reason for them to feel guilty about being born just the way they are, but too many parents MAKE them feel guilty by telling them they are damned to hell. That is CHILD ABUSE, pure and simple
dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Jan 19, 2013 8:20 PM

If all they are is kids, then they're innocent; having never been screwed or having screwed anyone.

You arbitrarily say they are homosexuals. That's unfair. They are untainted.

But no active homosexual is innocent or untainted. They incite hate by their own conduct. What bad boys do isn't for me. I call for no injustice. Just decency and abstinence from your vice. Sodomy is just like crack cocaine; a filthy vice.

Say what you will but you are all perverts when you insist on homo-erotic filth. Feeling your guilt is the natural part of that sickness.
David3036 Wrote: Jan 20, 2013 3:25 AM
You are confusing sexual orientation with sexual behavior. There are plenty of teens who are virgins but identify as gay. Why? Because it is whom you are attracted to that defines your sexual orientation, not what you choose to do about it. I have even met priests who have kept their vow of chastity but have told me they were gay.

Nevertheless, that doesn't make any difference to the bullies. They will torture a kid just because he's into ballet or drama instead of football. It makes no difference to them if the kid hasn't even had his first kiss. Now, can you simply acknowledge that it's wrong and immoral to promote hatred of those "sissy" kids? That is what you're doing, you know.
dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Jan 21, 2013 1:40 PM

We never condone or support any cruelty; even of the dirtiest person.

We credit joyfully any souls who choose purity in private life. They are called to repentance if they have fallen. Almighty God waits patiently to see your humble penitence. But today's homosexual agenda spins every opposition as homophobic; going against reason. The evil ones enable flagrant sin committing souls who could reform to eventual damnation. But God will not be mocked.

I’m always on the hunt for positive news, there being such consistent media focus on the bad stuff. Most days, headlines essentially read, “Handbasket full; hell in sight.”

So a recent headline caught my eye because of its positive tone: “Survey: Big drop in those who say being gay’s a sin.” According to Lifeway Research, a division of Lifeway Christian Resources of the Southern Baptist Convention, significantly fewer Americans defined homosexual behavior as sinful in 2012 than in 2011.

As reported at lifeway.com:

“A November 2012 survey of adults in the United States found 37 percent affirm a belief that homosexual...

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