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The Real Root of Atheists' Anti-Christmas Rage

Dr_Zinj Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 9:39 AM
Jesus wasn't born in December. Christianity celebrates Jesus' birth in December because they deliberately decided to coopt pagan Winter Solstice festivals. Which is probably why Jesus is only a very small reason for the season; and gift getting and capitalism reign supreme. The reality is that the spirit of giving should be alive throughout the year, not any particular time. And the arrival of Jesus we should pay the most attention to, is his resurrection, not his birth.
rreid Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 4:02 PM
Christmas is, most likely, the date of His conception!
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Dec 04, 2012 3:07 PM

If He left the world His CHURCH, and the Church celebrates Christ's birthday on 25 December; then that's His date of birth; not any other. Because, my foolish friends,

IF NOT, the Holy Spirit would have made everybody think twice, IMHO. But it pleases God that December 25 was selected. It pleased Jesus and therefore pleases the Paraclete (John 16 :12).

Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Dec 04, 2012 3:12 PM

A raft of utterly dumb so-called Christians never consider the divine Will of God; but rather the silly objections of mortal men.

Paul clearly says that for God, the wisdom of men is folly.

RageyMcRageMonster Wrote: Dec 05, 2012 12:51 PM
"Paul clearly says that for God, the wisdom of men is folly."

Well then, why listen to Paul?
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 1:24 PM
"Jesus wasn't born in December. Dr Zinj,
Christianity celebrates Jesus' birth in December because they deliberately decided to coopt pagan Winter Solstice festivals."

Christians are involved because Jesus christ was once a new-born. We recall what is most lovable about Him on Dec.25th.

Which may or may not be the proper date of His birth. He didn't say when He was born. For all we know it really was 25 December. We shall take what we can get. Gifts and capitalism DON'T reign supreme; Christ reigns. That is what curls the devil's hide; Jesus is still adored after two millennia, and always will be.

Atheists by definition are the devil's strongest suit. He influences them.
rdemonteverde Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 1:23 PM
Whether December or April as allege by some, just celebrate the birth of our Savior. A world with Jesus Christ is a world without hope. Just imagine a secular world where people believe there is no after life, that what you do here and now has no repercussions later. It will be every man for himself. Or a world that believes in Muhammad. The violence, the intolerance, the mindset that belongs to the early centuries, where others will decide your behavior. Where goats and sheeps are subjected to sexual harrassments with no Gloria Allred to protect their rights.
rdemonteverde Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 1:25 PM
Oops should read world without Jesus Christ is a world without hope. My bad.Sorry.
rdemonteverde Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 1:25 PM
Oops should read world without Jesus Christ is a world without hope. My bad.Sorry.
Dyoung Wrote: Dec 05, 2012 11:56 AM
You are as intolerant as you claim atheists are. Imagine a world without Jesus Christ. Well according to your own faith's Texts, there once was a time without Jesus. There are many in this world who believe in Muhammad that aren't violent.

I live my life without any hope that there is in fact a life after this one. I live every day like i could fade out of existence never to return. The only thing you leave behind is your legacy, and how people remember you. I would like to be remembered as a good man, who gave to others, and treated others as you would want to be treated. I do this, not for eternal life, but to make the most of the only one i have.
DCM in FL Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 12:08 PM
No, Jesus wasn't born in December, and I believe you're right about co-opting pagan festivals. Not sure your subsequent points really follow logically, though.
1Falcon1 Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 11:34 AM
you really missed the point entirely, btw without his birth there could be no death and no ressurection , oh, wait we do celebrate that , it's called EASTER
Dekkfish Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 10:20 AM
Dr. Zinj,

Why does it matter when we celebrate Jesus' birth?

And, speak for yourself with regard to how much 'reason for the season' Jesus is, compared to capitalism and commercialism.

If you want the spirit of giving to be alive throughout the year, it starts with you.
eddie again Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 10:23 AM
dekkfish,

i have been observing the futility of speaking with reason to people who post ignorant nonsense.

in this case the good dr appears to be completely and arrogantly entrenched in his ignorance.

if you recall, the post you commented on is very similar in intellectual depth, knowledge and understanding to the depth of most, if not all, of the good dr's previous posts.
Dekkfish Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 10:30 AM
You never know when something you say may trigger a change of heart in someone. It many seemingly futile remarks bring someone from their self-imposed darkness, they were not really futile, were they?
Dekkfish Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 10:31 AM
Ms Kelly Wrote: Dec 03, 2012 4:29 PM
You're right. It does happen.
Why do some atheists embarrass themselves year after year trying to eradicate Christmas from American culture? Why do they make themselves societal hemorrhoids during this hallowed season? Is it because they are crusaders for equality, secularism’s saviors and humanism’s heroes? I’m sure that’s what they tell themselves when they’re pouting on their couches all alone on Christmas Eve after every single one of their friends has dumped them for being a rabid jackass.

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