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The Quarrel With Morals

Dr_Zinj Wrote: Feb 22, 2013 9:49 AM
Just because the majority agree on something doesn't make it right. Legislating pi to equal 3 doesn't make it true.
rmccarthy Wrote: Feb 22, 2013 11:49 AM
My Bible tells me that most people at any certain time are either young, immature, confused, misled, or otherwise not totally in their right mind. That is the majority of which you speak.
Big O7 Wrote: Feb 22, 2013 1:29 PM
Not sure which version you read, but every version I have ever studied all agree that man's basic problem is none of the things in your list. Jeremiah 17:9 (not my opinion but God's) correctly summarizes the human condition, the problem of man (which is the sinful human heart) and doesn't include any of your ideas. Suggest you check again.
Wandered Wrote: Feb 22, 2013 1:39 PM
This is a perfect example of how objective moral standards are illusory. Two individuals even using the same object don't agree, and never mind those who use an entirely different object in the first place.
rmccarthy Wrote: Feb 22, 2013 7:00 PM
One measure is by the manifestation of the Fruit of the Spirit. However, the principle of "sowing and reaping" automatically deals with so much that the Law and the Gov't and many individuals would rather control or legislate or judge instead of appreciating God's wisdom and creation.
rmccarthy Wrote: Feb 22, 2013 7:01 PM
It isn't mystical. People sin because they either don't know the truth of God or they believe lies - and this could be because they are young, immature, confused, misled or otherwise not in their totally right mind. see "Pilgrim's Progress." We are all on one path or another and mostly not very far along. Sinners all, just some more than others for all kinds of reasons.
rmccarthy Wrote: Feb 22, 2013 7:01 PM
And the answer is God's truth and Jesus.

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What struck me was the great sadness with which my friend, himself an attorney, made his statement. It was not an accusation, but a sad recognition that a man vested with playing a prominent part in some of the most crucial...