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Taking Potshots at a Fetus

Dr_Zinj Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 9:23 AM
I 100% agree that taking innocent human life is a great moral evil. Except I don't define a person as human by shape or genetics; only by mind. And I'm sorry, but a fetus doesn't have a human mind.
Earl29 Wrote: Jan 26, 2013 1:05 AM
Sorry, Doc, you don't get to define humanity. You're too subjective. Your prejudice is preventing you from being objective. If you want to exclude someone from humanity, you can always come up with an excuse. History certainly teaches us that.
rmccarthy Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 11:30 PM
Dr Zinj: You have just revealed your level of selfishness
and it is selfishness that leads to abortions
and selfishness that is the basis for rationalizing as okay
and, sorry to say it, but also selfishness that most who argue against it are motivated by
both polarized sides of the argument are symptom bashing and not recognizing the root causes
and therefore, only keep the battle going with no respect for each other.
patrioticgalwithphd Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 5:38 PM
So when do they get a mind? As a baby is coming through the birth canal a mind magically appears? DuH! Typical Leftist stupidity. Babies born premature have a mind.--Evidently you dont!
RandyBahamas Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 11:58 AM
May I respectfully try to prove that an unborn child does have a human mind?

Have you ever seen an ultrasound of a baby sucking it's thumb?

I also watched an ultrasound movie of an abortion in progress and the baby was frantically trying to avoid the doctor's instruments.

One mother decided to cancel her abortion when she saw her baby smiling in an ultrasound.

We witnessed our own daughter stretch & yawn in the womb.

Isn't a developing human mind, still, a human mind?

Doesn't a one week old child have a similar, developing human mind?

Just a few thoughts for you to think about.

Would you please watch this movie and think about it? 180movie.com

Thank you for listening.
NormRx Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 10:04 AM
How do you know a fetus doesn't have a mind? So if that is your criteria, people that are comatose, or suffer severe mental retardation don't have a mind. Bring on the death panels.
ppotts Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 11:08 AM
It may have a start of a mind but not a complete one. Its basically a blob of jelly with the potential to become a human body. that is why they have a point at which they do not do most abortions. A woman has the right to control her own body, you or anyone else has any right to control the insides of another person. pro choice is where its at. However the state has no responsibility to pay for said abortion. If she wants to end her pregnancy, it is her responsibility to fund that choice.
RandyBahamas Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 12:12 PM
It has been clinically proven that a 20 week old unborn baby FEELS PAIN.
Louisiana Gov. Jindal signed 20-Week Abortion Ban Bill because of this evidence.
Younger Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 12:18 PM
You apparently have closed your mind to the reality that an unborn baby is not a part of its mother's body; it is an entirely separate human being that is dependent upon its mother for sustenance and protection from people who would kill it.
DCM in FL Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 1:47 PM
"Its basically a blob of jelly with the potential to become a human body"

That's the kind of nonsense thinking that ultrasounds refute. No wonder abortion providers don't want potential clients to have them.
rmccarthy Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 11:31 PM
Thus, the greatest problem on the Left - where to draw the line? Why, when it's something we want, nowhere!
Earl29 Wrote: Jan 26, 2013 1:08 AM
Mind is a subjective criteria. As is personhood. I would not want my life to depend on your wishes.

As you are all aware, Senator Dianne Feinstein released her list Thursday of guns she would like to see banned. I am certain that she feels morally and intellectually superior to the great unwashed out there who do not want to see Second Amendment rights infringed upon. I am certain that the lefties out there feel as if they have seized the moral high ground here for our children.

Funny isn’t it?

Kids die outside the womb and it is a tragedy. Kids die inside the womb and it is a “choice.” 

Another thing that happened on Thursday was...