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Col. David Hunt: "State Department just allowed our guys to get killed"

Dr_Zinj Wrote: Sep 17, 2012 9:40 AM
Actually, I'll go so far as to accuse Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama as conspirators to the premeditated murder of Ambassador Stevens and party. Reminds me of a "training" exercise we were having back in the mid-1980s where we sent a communications unit out into the woods several hours away from the base to hide. 2 M-16s, one for each man on the team. 1 clip of live ammo, with instructions to keep it in the glove compartment of the hummvee. Group of anti-american hunters came upon them and proceeded to shoot the entire place up. Destroyed over a hundred thousand dollars in communications equipment, terrorized our men, and even if they could have gotten to the truck to get the single clip, THEY WERE FORBIDDEN TO SHOOT BACK!
ronb28135 Wrote: Sep 17, 2012 5:09 PM
This practice isn't new. In '65 my marine unit on DaNang air base was in country for 60 days without ammunition. Our tents were less than 100 feet from the perimeter concertina wire. We had bullet holes in the tents. But because we were air wing pogues, the brass thought we would shoot ourselves in the foot with real bullets in our "guns." Our rifles were in our tents & no ammo. We were issued it on an as needed basis when we stood guard duty every other week.

Some Army infantry units kept their guns locked in an armory when not in the field.

Word has it that when Bill Clinton reviewed the troops the bolts had to be taken out of their rifles. The guy's ego was out of control. No one would waste a round on a rat. They were stepped on.
Dr_Zinj Wrote: Sep 17, 2012 9:42 AM
You know what good a military is that can't, and isn't allowed to, defend itself?

Absolutely useless.

Which is exactly what the President and the Secretary of State are, absolutely useless.

If you weren't already uncontrollably furious over the debacle in Libya that led to the death of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other embassy personnel, this is likely to send you over the edge.  From Breitbart News:

In an exclusive interview with Breitbart News, Fox News military analyst Colonel David Hunt laid the blame for the murder of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans at the Benghazi, Libya American mission on Hillary Clinton and the State Department:

"The State Department just allowed our guys to get killed. If you approve...