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Doug3370 Wrote: Nov 18, 2012 11:39 AM
Dear Professor Ransom, In a response notably snarky for its insistence that your reader has ignored facts, you got some numbers way wrong. You wrote that the total number of people who had lived up to 1900 was only 1.06 billion. One point oh six billion. The correct figure, no doubt the figure you thought your source gave, is 106 billion. One hundred billion plus change. (A little internet search on "number of people who have ever lived" would have got you this stat.) Your claim for the number of people killed in earlier wars is also wrong. Steven Pinkers' "The Better Angels of our Nature" gives details. Billions died in wars prior to the 20th century.
Colonialgirl Wrote: Nov 18, 2012 1:02 PM
Blowing smoke with no evidence; The population of earth was NOT that high; Now back to your sewer troll.
John in Gwinnett,Ga Wrote: Nov 18, 2012 12:33 PM
Do a google search Doug and you will find that your numbers are wrong. Ransom's source is also incorrect, but the point he was making is very valid.
SageAdvice68 Wrote: Nov 18, 2012 11:52 AM
The main point of the discussion you are correcting Doug was Jose's instance that religion was what killed the vast majority of these people, regardless of the actual numbers......What is your position on...."All religions have done more harm than good."......For example, might your vast Google research tools provide you with a more specific number than say the "All" figure Jose offered?
DagNabbit Wrote: Nov 18, 2012 12:24 PM
Not all people who have been killed in the name of religion have been killed in wars. Think Spanish Inquisition.

Whether or not the numbers add up, it's absolutely true that over the course of human history, religion has done more harm than good. It's manifested itself in the constraint of science, from Galileo to Christian Scientists not getting their kids medical treatment. It's responsible for the patriarchy of many societies, which leads to the oppression of women, which leads to overpopulation, which leads to poverty and hunger. In general, religion keeps people stupid, which is precisely what it's designed to do.
SageAdvice68 Wrote: Nov 18, 2012 12:36 PM
This idiot DagNabbit is a prime argument for never legalizing pot, and aborting all babies conceived by women who smoke pot.
Colonialgirl Wrote: Nov 18, 2012 1:03 PM
More trollism of false facts pulled from the load of fertilizer between its ears.
Doug3370 Wrote: Nov 18, 2012 1:04 PM
The main point of my point was to point out that facts should be respected. One ought not publicly excoriate someone for ignorance, while misplacing the decimal by two notches on the question of how many people have been killed in wars before the 20th century.

Jose is of course wrong that "religion" is responsible for all those pre-20th century war killings. The Mongol Horde wasn't rampaging on account of some horse god. But they did kill an ungodly number of people. And even when wars are declared to be holy wars, there seems to be a secular agenda lurking in the background most of the time. (The witches of Salem were mostly girls who stood to inherit; their accusers, next in line to inherit. Just for a crude example.)

Georgia Boy wrote: Actually, President Obama has not raised taxes on anybody, but I think he will raise taxes on the wealthiest (back to historic levels) when he gets his second term. That said, Ransom is just another Rat-wing speculation, pretty much full of bovine manure. -France’s “No Limit” Tax Perfect for Zero

Dear Comrade Boy Georgia,

You’re right about Obama wanting to bring taxes to historic levels, although like most liberals you don’t understand what you are saying. Still, rest assured, if you did understand what you said about taxes at historic levels, you’d be for that too.