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When Bullying For the Gay Agenda is OK

Donjindra Wrote: May 03, 2012 11:34 AM
"So let’s get this straight. On the one hand, if you read the Bible literally on the subject of homosexuality, you’re a hypocrite, because we 'ignore bull–- in the Bible' all the time. But if, as a Christian, you read the nuanced, complex message of Christ about the subject of sin and sinners, Mr. Savage is insulted." It appears Hicks is intentionally ignoring the real issue -- the issue Savage brought up. Christians love to point to this or that verse to justify their position. But they do so selectively. They pick and choose which issues are nuanced and complex while ignoring the complexity in others. But it's always their choice. They make the Bible conform to them, not the other way around.
Bill1895 Wrote: May 03, 2012 11:49 AM
There are several verses in the Bible against homosexuality: not just one.

Donjindra Wrote: May 03, 2012 12:06 PM
"There are several verses in the Bible against homosexuality: not just one."

So what? There are verses about lots of things we chose to ignore today -- verses not even most radical Christians would accept. Do you want to kill witches? Do you want to stone unruly children? Is slavery okay as it was in Abraham's day? Why single out some verses on homosexuality? That's the root of the problem.
Louie13 Wrote: May 03, 2012 12:23 PM
Donjindra, God saying that homosexuality is an "abomination" to him is pretty clear and straightforward, no nuances there, and remember, it is he who will judge you when death seals your fate forever. And homosexuality is a grave sin that will send you to Hell and ultimately to the Second Death, the death of your soul, if left unrepented before death seals you fate forever. And remember Sodom and Gomorrah? No nuances there either.

Louie
Donjindra Wrote: May 03, 2012 12:58 PM
“‘A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.’”

What is unclear and un-straightforward about that? Yet most Christians would not think of stoning mediums today. Why the double-standard? What lets you decide which of God's laws to ignore? And if you can decide which laws are relevant today, why can't anyone else do the same? Why is your standard more just?

David3036 Wrote: May 03, 2012 1:20 PM
So, what about all those other abominations in Leviticus? Do they get a free pass?
Bill1895 Wrote: May 03, 2012 1:31 PM
Your statement is "the issue Savage brought up. Christians love to point to this or that verse to justify their position"
The so what is that you were clear that this issue revolves aoround one verse when it is clear that more than one verse addresses the issue.
James2517 Wrote: May 03, 2012 1:34 PM
And there are many "abominations" listed in the Bible. I disagree with the way Savage delivered his speech but not so much with the content. It is good to have one's beliefs challenged.
David3036 Wrote: May 03, 2012 2:16 PM
The problem is, neither you nor anyone else heard God say that -- nor can you offer any eveidence that God even exists. What you are quoting is something that a "wise" man of the Bronze Age wrote -- who wasn't even as wise as today's average eighgth-grader.
Ken6226 Wrote: May 03, 2012 2:23 PM
On the contrary, I'd say people in the so-called Dark Ages were wiser than today's college students. Not that you would notice.

I hate to say I told you so, but … well … I did.

In my book, “Don’t Let the Kids Drink the Kool-Aid,” I posited that radicals within the gay lobby are using the important issue of bullying to indoctrinate America’s children with leftist dogma about homosexuality.

They have chosen an issue with which no one could possibly disagree — that bullying is a horrible, hurtful epidemic among young people — to implicate religion (specifically, fundamentalist Christianity) as a root cause of homophobic, aggressive behavior.

It’s all part and parcel of the movement to secularize our society while at the...

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