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The Newtown Massacre and the Pain of God

Dollysboy Wrote: Dec 17, 2012 5:17 AM
The Rev. Brown's tortured logic is pathetic nonsense. So God controls everything but he occasionally surprises himself and then suffers for it. Poor thing. I wonder if Brown thinks he suffers as much as the parents of those children--whose suffering HE is responsible for. It is a very old bit of how Faith supposedly squares that particular circle.
Shlomo O'Kelly Wrote: Dec 17, 2012 10:10 AM
I find myself disagreeing with both camps. My Bible says that "the devil goes about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour". But, it also says that if we resist the devil, he will flee from us. Further,it says that if we think and do the things that are true, honest, just, lovely, pure, and of good report, then the God of peace shall be with us. So the solution to our woes is obvious. This nation needs a behavior change. That's what repentance really is.
rmccarthy Wrote: Dec 17, 2012 11:44 AM
The Bible says that most are on the wrong path, some may yet change...so, what's the big surprise - and that means God is proved correct and that means that there is plenty of opportunity for believers to help.
Think Freely Wrote: Dec 17, 2012 8:53 AM
Dollysboy,

I am curious, should God stop you from doing what you want to do? Would that reflect love? At what point should God intervene? When you are thinking evil thoughts? When you are about to act but have not yet acted? How much control should he exercise?
blueridgegranny Wrote: Dec 17, 2012 7:12 AM
Hello dolly...you have it all figured out, I guess. The brainpower God gave you - us - will never compare to that of the Creator of the Universe. Don't even try. The universe suddenly popped into being....or it always was...we will never understand either concept.
Ken2168 Wrote: Dec 17, 2012 6:29 AM
--So God controls everything but he occasionally surprises himself and then suffers for it.--
That's not what Rev. Brown said. It's not even close.

-- I wonder if Brown thinks he suffers as much as the parents of those children--whose suffering HE is responsible for.--
Because it's not like anybody has free will or...

annfan_777 Wrote: Dec 17, 2012 5:27 AM
Flagged for the usual gratuitous blasphemy.

In the aftermath of the Newtown massacre, as family members and friends of the slain and wounded suffer unspeakable agony, people around the world are asking, “Where was God?” But very few are asking, “Is God hurting too?”

According to Basilea Schlink (1904-2001), a German Christian leader who stood up to the Nazis, “Anyone who loves as much as God does, cannot help suffering. And anyone who really loves God will sense that He is suffering.” She found support for this view in the writings of the Japanese Lutheran theologian Kazoh Kitamori in his book “Theology of the Pain of God.”

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