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DoctorRoy Wrote: Sep 15, 2013 10:12 AM
Do you object to this too? http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/report-says-nation-s-city-residents-are-raking-in-farm/article_5bcfe1f2-f41a-51ef-8397-c7b0b6effa77.html
Alex_P Wrote: Sep 15, 2013 5:33 PM
Heinlein parodied it in his "The Door into Summer" (brilliant book, BTW).
There a hero transferred to the future (via "long sleep") encounters a business that demolishes "excess cars" - government buys them to support car industry. When he notes that some of these cars don't even have engines, the businessman bristles: "You don't expect them to be fully equipped to only be scrapped!" (quote from memory).
He wrote it in 1956 about year 2000.
As an aside - reading this in the Soviet Union in 1980s I was more impressed by Heinlein's belief in the capitalism and American "can do" attitude, so different from the "they pretend to pay us, we pretend to work" Soviet "sit-in strike".
DoctorRoy Wrote: Sep 15, 2013 11:10 AM
I agree. The point I was making is that some of these folks aren't even going through the motions of planting anything.
Ron-CA Wrote: Sep 15, 2013 10:58 AM
Doctor Roy,
Our farm example....we plant wheat, the government comes along and says we don't need that much wheat, so plow a certain amount of it under. We plow it under and the government pays us for it. Its stupid but its the law. The one point I agree with in the article is the farm subsidy program needs to be abolished.
DoctorRoy Wrote: Sep 15, 2013 10:54 AM
Well that's good Dudley-Do-Wrong. (wink)
DoctorRoy Wrote: Sep 15, 2013 10:50 AM
Either you didn't read the story or you need a RIF refresher course, Ron. People are getting paid for doing essentially nothing. Now I realize that over the years the language has been manipulated to accommodate this trend. When poor people receive money from the government they call it welfare. When wealthy people do they just change the name to "subsidies". I don't think that's an accident. I just don't see much difference.
el Dudley Wrote: Sep 15, 2013 10:29 AM
I object to any governmental corruption.
Ron-CA Wrote: Sep 15, 2013 10:20 AM
Let's see Roy, people who own farms get, wait for it....farm subsidies. Farm subsidies have been around in the US since the 1920's, and they were an attempt of the democratic party to control commodity prices.

What is your issue that these people don't live on their farm? So what! The farm subsidy law doesn't require you live on the farm only that you own and operate the farm.