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The New Liberals’ Hymnal: The Book of Common Core

DoctorRoy Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 12:57 AM
Well it doesn't do any good to teach algebra at the middle school level if the kids don't know basic arithmetic. Mathematics is a hierarchy of knowledge. If you move on before the previous level is mastered you will be lost. I've worked with high school and even a few college graduates that didn't know their multiplication tables. You're supposed to learn them in the third grade. So I don't know what good it would do trying to teach them algebra at any level. I'm not advocating rote memorization learning in middle school but you can't teach critical thinking skills until the basics are learned.
Ortheadnew Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 8:58 AM
Hello Doctor Roy,

I am an advocate for "rote learning". Learning that 2+2=4 is an example of rote learning. It is a necessary prerequisite for future learning.

Thank you,
Bill Moore
DoctorRoy Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 11:16 AM
And hello to you too, Bill Moore. I think that's what I said in my own long winded way. But thank you for your uhhh conciseness.
evie10 Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 5:45 PM
I don't believe you were saying what Mr. Moore said...long winded or just verbose.
Colonialgirl Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 3:53 AM
The biggest load of garbage I've seen; But then its from a liberal stooge so ignorance and stupidity spewed is to be expected. Guess what moron; That's because NO KID gets flunked or left behind, they get moved up ignorant or not. If they get flunked the parents sue. IF they actually REQUIRED them to learn and demonstrate the knowledge they would KNOW MATH before the 7th grade, Hell, I knew it by the fifth grade and got bored with it in the 6th, and 7th grade. In the Forth grade, I was helping others learn long division. Now I sit here with 4 Semesters of Calculus and Analytical Geometry, Finite Math, numerous years of Algebra, Geometry, Statistics and Lord knows what other courses.I COULD have taken these MUCH earlier IF they had taught
Colonialgirl Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 3:55 AM
Algebra in the 5th or 6th grade. So, take your stupidity and lack of intelligence and go away.
Flunk the idiots in Grade school when they needed to be flunked and they'd soon learn it and know it by the time they reach college; DITTO reading, English and ALL the other "CORE" courses.
People of your ilk are why our school systems are failing.
Kurt114 Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 7:49 AM
The districts cannot retain those who don't master the material, since if the demographics of the failed students to not match the demographics of the school population that is considered proof of discrimination. I was told, at times, to focus remedial efforts on one demographic or another. Standards for pre-AP classes were dropped so the classes would be more inclusive. Those who have been there know.
PhillupSpace2 Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 2:00 AM
In my population growth rants, I frequently remind the readers I am using 5th Grade arithmetic. Perhaps, to most of them today, that just don't compute! (Pun intended) Maybe I am making no sense, to Today's readers! So, let me clarify, It was the 5th grade arithmetic when WE went to school!
PhillupSpace2 Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 2:19 AM
So, what do Graduation Rates mean anyway? If students have skipped all the meaningful studies in favor of 4 years of Diversity, socialism and Political Correctness?

When I see students interviewed on TV who cannot yet speak proper English, I am led to ask, Does today's English Teacher pretend to pass students who did not have to EITHER speak correctly, or write correctly in class?

It is Sad, but still amusing to see a Black who gets a part in a TV series struggle to speak like the rest of America! It is so obvious he has never been required to speak correctly before in his life!
DoctorRoy Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 2:26 AM
It's been my experience that in the manufacturing sector the only algebra I have ever run across is Boolean algebra. And that's only been in the last 15 years or so with the proliferation of computerized machinery. Obviously I'm not talking about the engineering that goes into making the machines but just running them.
PhillupSpace2 Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 2:37 AM
So it is sadder still that manufacturing, the only good paying employment available to the less educated, is becoming as scarce as political integrity and Candor. (BTW, 2 years of algebra were required in the stone age also)
PhillupSpace2 Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 2:42 AM
And, Doc, my niece is a tenured professor at the University off Arizona, Tuscon; Her field is education, no less!

When we infrequently meet at Family events, sparks fly, as you can imagine! She won't accept the emails I forward to her! Ha,
Colonialgirl Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 3:57 AM
NO the good teaachers that try to FLUNK the little idiots get told to "PASS THEM ALONG AND LET THE NEXT YEAR FIX IT".My dad was a math teacher in the LA Schools and got told that.
Colonialgirl Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 3:57 AM
Are you REALLY ALL THAT STUPID? DOn't bother to answer; WE KNOW the answer is YES because you are a liberal.
Colonialgirl Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 3:58 AM
Another lefty propaganda youtube of no value and complete stupidity.
Nam65-66 Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 5:32 AM
Maybe she can't read the E-mails.Try drawing pictures next time.
chuck 554 Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 7:41 AM
Boolean Algebra was the reason I changed my major to Mechanical Engineering from Computer Eng. I failed it twice. That would have been in 1962. If I had today's education...I probably couldn't have even SPELLED "Algebra"!
Ortheadnew Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 9:01 AM
Hello Doctor Roy,

The purpose of learning mathematics is to enable the mind to think logically.

Thank you,
Bill Moore
DoctorRoy Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 11:10 AM
Well Pam if you had bothered to watch the clip instead of labeling it "lefty propaganda" , in your usual knee jerk reaction, you'd realize that educating young people is an age old problem that cuts across all races and socio-economic lines.
Kim D Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 1:00 PM
Algebraic calculations are such an integral part of every day life that people are not aware that they are using math to solve many everyday problems.
Colonialgirl Wrote: Apr 22, 2013 3:23 PM
As I said; a Lefty propaganda film that doesn't touch reality.

Prepare ye the way of the Common Core. And then the Word will be made Fed. And Obama will dwell amongst us forever. Amen. -- From the Book of Common Core


Prepare for the final federalization of primary education in the USA- hereafter known as Common Core- and don’t worry so much about relics written by old, white men like the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. The Tenth Amendment only helps ensure local control of those things like education policy. It only ensures that we have a big, diverse, vibrant country full...