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Labor Day Should Be “Innovators Day”

DoctorRoy Wrote: Sep 04, 2012 6:27 AM
So what you are really saying is you'd like a day set aside to honor the money manipulators? You already have that the other 364 days of the year. You just don't get it, man. Labor day honors the millions of anonymous Americans who toiled in the fields and factories and were the backbone of what made America great. Every country has their rich and poor. But it was and is the vast American middle class that made America different. You mess with that and you risk turning the US into just another two bit banana republic. See you are looking at it wrong. It would be like changing Memorial Day to Military Hardware Innovators Day.
Kibitzer Wrote: Sep 04, 2012 11:10 AM
Without Henry Ford, would there have been a UAW? Without entrepreneurs that take the risk and provide employment, there wouldn't be any "middle class". Economic activity does not start with the middle class, but with entrepreneurs. Most of the middle class work for employers, and no employer will pay individual employees as much as he hopes to make for himself.
DoctorRoy Wrote: Sep 04, 2012 2:46 PM
My point was that you have had entrepreneurs throughout history in every country. The difference maker that made America great was a thriving middle class.
Kibitzer Wrote: Sep 04, 2012 3:05 PM
So you believe that the middle class is self sufficient onto itself? How do you think the middle class became the middle class?
DoctorRoy Wrote: Sep 04, 2012 3:16 PM
I didn't say that. I said it's a symbiotic relationship.
Kibitzer Wrote: Sep 04, 2012 9:45 PM
Actually, you didn't say, "it's a symbiotic relationship.", buy I don't disagree with that thought.
Greg1084 Wrote: Sep 04, 2012 7:03 AM
You don't get it. Labor is what you get rid of with innovation. Every advancement in technology saves us the need to break our backs doing something that will in the future be unnecessary. If we want to appreciate the efforts of those who have gone on before us we can honor them, we don't have to revere the fact that they broke their backs in the process. I appreciate my Dad. Sure, picking cotton may have helped shape his character someday, but when he dies I won't be celebrating the fact that he picked cotton, or that he ended up being a ground-breaking physician, I will be celebrating him as a person. Labor day IS stupid.
DoctorRoy Wrote: Sep 04, 2012 7:17 AM
I disagree. I think hard work is character building and see nothing wrong with celebrating that.
Reed42 Wrote: Sep 04, 2012 7:22 AM
Dear Doc,
Name one innovation that does not save labor effort per unit of good produced. Progress is about channeling labor into more productivity. It neither increases nor deceases the labor people are capable of or effort exerted.
DoctorRoy Wrote: Sep 04, 2012 7:33 AM
Well I hear what you are saying but it still doesn't change the fact that back in the day those innovations were not there yet so you needed people that were willing to get down in the trenches and do the dirty work. That's what Labor day is all about.
Jeff3820 Wrote: Sep 04, 2012 9:46 AM
Labor Day is a celebration of Unions. We shouldn't celebrate or lift up unions.
Greg1084 Wrote: Sep 04, 2012 5:59 PM
No it isn't. It's a sop to unions.
Greg1084 Wrote: Sep 04, 2012 5:59 PM
No it isn't. It's a sop to unions.

Labor Day is stupid.

A national celebration of Big Labor. Big Labor slows down economic innovation. It holds people and companies back. In a modern society, big labor unions really have no place. Big Labor pollutes our politics. It’s central planning. Some have proposed a Creator’s Day. Big massive companies can do the same thing as unions. Think ATT and Comcast want to see a lot of innovation in broadband? Think again. Instead of calling today Labor Day, I’d call it Innovators Day.

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