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A National Crisis in Character

DoctorRoy Wrote: Nov 19, 2012 8:11 PM
I gotta tell ya folks that you all are barking up the wrong tree with this Social Security and Medicare stuff. People get offended when they have paid into a program all their working lives and you guys lump them into the "entitlement" groups. They get more offended when you tell them if you have your way they both will be abolished and they will be sol. And the over 55 nothing changes rhetoric doesn't help either. That doesn't help the millions who are 40 to 55 who have already paid in for 30 or 40 years. I guess what I am trying to say is you are going to lose this one.
geotay Wrote: Nov 19, 2012 9:14 PM
I had an 8-hr/day job when I was going to high school. I usually had a job when I got a new one. I am 82 now and longevity is a family characteristic. I've been getting the 62-year rate of Social Security (for whom I worked in 1950, by the way) since 1992. I'd be hard pressed to gather all the numbers but I'm pretty sure the money I'm getting now comes from you.
DoctorRoy Wrote: Nov 19, 2012 11:12 PM
That's the way it works geo. youse pays your money and youse takes your chances. you're welcome btw lol.
smokindave Wrote: Nov 19, 2012 8:18 PM
Talk about the wrong tree. No one is saying that those are "entitlements" that are unearned. We ARE saying however, that both programs cannot meet their obligations without some sort of change. And neither will be able to keep its promises unless other entitlements are cut back. Each dollar can only be divided so many ways-it still has to add up to one dollar.
canetoad Wrote: Nov 19, 2012 8:26 PM
One solution is to apply FICA to all income not just the first $107,000. Problem solved!
Frank391 Wrote: Nov 22, 2012 1:05 PM
It wouldn't be enough. SS is $88 trillion in the hole.

Here’s an excerpt from a letter I received the other day from a college professor:

“….throughout this election I discussed with students the differences between ideologies. The majority of them are on federal financial aid. They are fine with more taxes as long as they will be taken care of. It is disturbing to hear that they are willing to spend their own money on tattoos and cell phones but cannot buy the book for class until the financial aid comes in.”

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