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Bill Kristol: Tea Partiers Won't Mind More Taxes

DMSichael Wrote: Nov 19, 2012 10:55 AM
Whatever your opinion on President Obama, here is something no conservative has been able to explain to me. Why would the same policies that turned a booming economy and government surplus at the end of Clinton's 2nd term into the worst recession in 80 years and extreme government overspending and debt at the end of Bush's 2nd term suddenly work now? Deregulation, giving more money to the rich and cutting social programs are not new ideas, they were the policy from 2000-2008. It failed. They are what got us into this mess. These aren't fresh faced candidates with sparkling new ideas, it is simply the same message from different faces. We tried these things from 2000-2008 and they simply did not work.
DMSichael Wrote: Nov 19, 2012 10:56 AM
In fact, worse than that, then Republican party turned a healthy economy and government into a sick economy and dysfunctional government. Why would going back to them suddenly work now?
TeamAmericaWorldPolice Wrote: Nov 19, 2012 11:00 AM
It's true - W completely ruined the brand.
Smitty41inPB Wrote: Nov 19, 2012 11:03 AM
clinton never had a surplus so from the git go you failed, why believe the rest?

Liberals caussed the housing crisis and conservatives didn't do enough to stop them and therefore are to be blamed as well. Wall st does what Wall st does, looks at a situation and finds a way to make money. Much like the Repubs believed their own polling in this last election and the were wrong, many of the smart boys on Wall st feel in love with their algorithyms and didn't believe housing could crash. The gov't bailing them out compounded an already ludicrous position, but it was the liberal policies that bartenders could own 500K homes and the federal arm to threaten banks that wouldn't lend to them that killed this country.
TeamAmericaWorldPolice Wrote: Nov 19, 2012 11:09 AM
I agree that liberals like W caused a lot of this mess, Smitty.
oldervoter68 Wrote: Nov 19, 2012 11:20 AM
Well, if someone would come forward with another Y2K "crisis and a new and better internet, spawning 100s of dot con upstarts, the economy would certainly boom as it did during Clinton's second term. Until then.......
And don't forget the Ds ultimately controlled the purse strings between 2007-2010. How did that work out for us???
CVN65 Wrote: Nov 19, 2012 11:23 AM
Hey Genius, go back and show us the actual surplus money and where it was spent. Take your time and be very thorough but be prepared for disappointment. There was no surplus. At no point in eight years did Clinton not run a deficit. At no time did he not steal the Soc Sec surplus and stick into the general fund. The surplus was concocted based on projections fed to the CBO by the Clinton admin. These projections assumed many things that did not happen. It didn't stop the beltway buffoons from arguing over how to spend the projected surplus before it ever materialized. You may also wish to know that the tax policy under Bush resulted in large net increases in collections by the Treasury; we ran deficits due to overspending.

Bill Kristol just doesn't get the Tea Party and apparently, doesn't understand the Obama tax hike proposal on those making more than $250,000 per year. Last week, Kristol said "it wouldn't kill the country" if we raised taxes on millionaires and yesterday on Fox News Sunday, he said the Tea Party wouldn't mind a tax increase on millionaires, either.

Kristol: A lot of the Tea Party guys don’t care too much if a few millionaires pay couple percent more in taxes, honestly.