Immigration reform is just one of the many problems the American people face. An uneducated populous is at the mercy of a preponderance of self serving corrupt politicians who seem to only care about ideology and their own job security. When does policy address a solution to a problem that is both workable and affordable? Illegal immigration has wrecked havoc on our society and services. I feel sympathy for those who flee abject poverty or seek a better opportunity and bring skills to the game. Given all the factors, could the politicians not come up with something workable for everyone and maintain the integrity of law? Apparently not. Stop being so self serving and then actually address the problems.

I feel there are many factors yet to be debated in this issue. Nothing is settled by fiat. Doesn't Mexico as a country bear some responsibility for the exodus of it's people? Why are we not including Mexico into this debate. Anytime a bordering country has problems it effects the countries it borders. Mexico has apparently a lot of oil along with rampant crime. Certainly there could be treaties and crime prevention exchanges along with and commiserate with illegal immigration reform. It doesn't answer the immigration from other countries, but is most of that illegal? Democrats employ their secular religious views as a way to shut down debate and garner votes. That's about power, not trying to actually solve problems.

Thank you for an intelligent comment

Just who are you trying to convince?

discussion.

discussion. As far as mental health is concerned, there is a basic problem. Serious mental issues manifest themselves mostly in the late teens to early twenties. However, once over 18, only the mentally disturbed person themselves can commit themselves to a mental health facility. Perhaps allowing a parent or guardian along with a doctor's approval, a seriously disturbed individual can be committed once they are over 18.

I really think there are some good ideas here based on research and implementation results. Extra police are needed for crime ridden intercity neighborhoods, not the city as a whole. In rural areas, lack of funding has reduced a law enforcement profile to nil, along with release of prisoners, resulting in more drug related crime. Our society has many ills, and not articulating the problems accurately contributes to the lack of debate and solutions. Violence is and always has been a problem in many aspects of society and culture. Government does have a place in helping to control some of these problems. Concentrating on where violence occurs, and being honest about the culture that perpetrates it the most, would be a good start for

"We", is rhetorical for "society", not you personally. If you were raised Catholic, you are by definition not secular, unless of course you have renounced your faith. I too was schooled by nuns in the '50's. My morality comes from belief in God and Christian values. I haven't the ability to rationalize morality based on limited values which most secularism does. Would you care to deny, based on the argument here on abortion, that many in today's society base their moral relativism in secularism? Perhaps you need to read more carefully.

You are right, how sad. The debate is about morality. Abortion isn't the only factor in this debate. How sad that most of this country is willing to give up responsibility which is the only true criteria for freedom.

I think the law should be based on the morals of the society as well as fact. However, much like the speed limit, it is often based on convenience, otherwise we would all be driving a lot slower. As we become more secular and subsequently less moral, than I guess fact is the second best option.