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McGovern & Goldwater: Losers or Winners?

JungJoe Wrote: Oct 26, 2012 10:40 AM
I've got to respectfully disagree with your contention that Obama doesn't realize what he's doing, 1960. Obama will never admit his own failures or shortcomings, it's always going to be the fault of someone else, not him. What we're getting is only the beginning of the fundamental transformation he and his ilk want. That's the scary part about Obama, he doesn't just want to get re-elected and enjoy the perks of office. He wants to CHANGE THE CULTURE OF THIS COUNTRY, fundamentally and in perpetuity, not to follow the Constitution but to destroy the Constitution and place man above any higher power, be it your God or Free Will or whatever you want to call it. The only thing standing in his way will be those who oppose him.
msnider Wrote: Oct 26, 2012 5:51 PM
Those are the ones he will round up and lock up right after being reelected if he is reelected.
JungJoe Wrote: Oct 26, 2012 10:41 AM
Those are the ones he'll never forgive.
Early in Ronald Reagan's second term, Bill Rusher, the publisher of National Review, was interviewing the president in the Oval Office for a documentary on the conservative movement.

Rusher asked how he would describe Barry Goldwater's role.

Reagan thought a moment and replied: I guess you would have to call him the John the Baptist of our movement.

I resisted the impulse to lean in and ask, "Sir, if Barry Goldwater was John the Baptist, who would that make you?"

The death of George McGovern brought back thoughts of these two men who suffered two of the greatest defeats in presidential...