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It's a Christie Thing

D G Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 2:06 PM
I'm sick and tired of so-called conservatives allowing liberal-democrats to win because they keep attacking good conservative Republicans with absolutely false label like "RINO" and "establishment". Stop letting liberal democrats win with such stupidity. We must get on the same page to defeat liberalism. United we stand; divided we fall.
Andy544 Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 2:49 PM
Laughable. Over the past 30 years, the "conservative" Presidents Reagan, Bush, Sr. and Bush Jr. took a national debt that was LESS THAN 1 trillion dollars under Jimmy Carter, and exploded it to over 10 TRILLION dollars after Bush II's second term. The most "conservative" President during that 28 year period was the lone Liberal POTUS, Bill Clinton. Been there, done that, and bought the "T-shirt" with your "good conservative Republicans". McCain and Romney are just the START of a LONG line of losses for the GOP if it doesn't do a 180 degree turn. Either that, or a 3rd party will rise up to totally eclipse the GOP, even as the GOP eclipsed the Whigs in the late 1850's as the conservative alternative to the Democrats.
D G Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 3:18 PM
It's laughable that people have no idea what caused the debt to increase.

Bill CLinton was no conservative. It's more than laughable you said that.

Did you not know about Contract for America and the Republican Congress that passed legislation in 1997 to cut taxes and reduce deficits? ... Clinton did not do that.
NewJAl Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 3:59 PM
Clinton takes credit, but is a liar. He was dragged, kicking an screaming by a Republican Congress not only to be financially more responsible but to demand people not sit on their duff and collect welfare. To my knowledge he vetoed the bill, and more than once, but the Republicans had gut, then. Obama reversed that sane fiscal policy, recently. Probably by his evil EO's.
Andy544 Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 4:09 PM
Yeah, and in three years GWB came along, and the 'Contract for America' became the 'Contract ON America'.

FISCALLY, Clinton WAS the most conservative of the 4 Presidents between 1981 and 2009. One can argue, with some justification, that Gingrich's 'Contract', along with the loss of the House in 1994, allowed Clinton the opportunity to 'see the light' and become a 'born again' 'fiscal conservative'.

And, yes, I do have an idea what caused the debt to increase: exploding entitlement spending (along with myriads of 'pork' DOD spending), and 'conservative' politicians w/o the political backbone, courage or will to rein it in!
D G Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 4:37 PM
No.... Clinton was never a conservative..... GWB was far more conservative than Clinton.
ericynot Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 5:04 PM
DG --

Not from an economic standpoint he wasn't.
Andy544 Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 5:09 PM
simply not true. in fact, borderline delusional.... who brought us Medicare Part D? (The un-funded trillion dollar pharmaceutical subsidy for Seniors which heavily benefitted the pharmaceutical industry, which, in turn, has made heavy political contributions to members of Congress).
Since you seem to be a little bit 'slow on the uptake', D G, let me 'spell it out' for you: I am not saying Bill Clinton was a 'conservative'- I'm saying that FISCALLY Clinton was MORE 'conservative' and prudent than GWB. Your obtuse double-talk is another example why millions have 'walked away' from the GOP..
D G Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 6:52 PM
Eric .... Sure he was. He cut taxes. He cut non-mandatroy spending. He reduced deficits (2004-2007; before Dems took Congress). He made an effort to reform one of the major entitlement programs only to be overwhelmed with AARP pressures. The 4th longest expansion in history was on GWB's watch. The average unemployment rate for all 8 GWB years was 5.3%.

GWB was a great president and he was a conservative.
D G Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 6:54 PM
Andy .... A trillion dollars. Who is dillisional?...... Unfunded? Nonsense. Every dollar spent is funmded! .... Clinton was not more conservative than GWB. Not even close.
farpstabber1 Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 8:42 PM
I look forward to the fulfillment of your prediction.

Let me say on the record that I don’t really care about New Jersey. I know very little about it. But, I know this much: I don’t want to live there and I don’t want the rest of the United States to resemble New Jersey.

For me New Jersey is the Joe Piscopo character asking anyone and everyone “Are you from Jersey? I’m from Jersey.”

Also, I’ve never seen the TV show “Jersey Shore,” but still I don’t like it. And know that I don’t want the rest of the country to resemble it, either.

It’s the state that elected...