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Repeal and replace Obamacare

Denmark Vesey Wrote: Apr 14, 2014 10:56 PM
Sorry to hear about your increase but as we have seen, this law will produce winners and losers. Maybe by the time of the next presidential election, enough data will be available to determine whether or not the benefits of this act outweighed the negatives.
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Repeal and replace Obamacare

Denmark Vesey Wrote: Apr 14, 2014 9:35 PM
“: Will 2.5 Million People Lose Their Jobs in 2024 Because of the ACA? “A: No, we would not describe our estimates in that way. We wrote in the report: “CBO estimates that the ACA will reduce the total number of hours worked, on net, by about 1.5 percent to 2.0 percent during the period from 2017 to 2024, almost entirely because workers will choose to supply less labor." The reason for the reduction in the supply of labor is that the provisions of the ACA reduce the incentive to work for certain subsets of the population. For example, under the ACA, health insurance subsidies are provided to some people with low income and are phased out as their income rises; as a result, a portion of the added income from working more would be offset by a loss of some or all of the subsidies, which represents an implicit tax on earnings. Also, the ACA’s subsidies effectively boost the income of recipients, which will lead some of them to decide they can work less and still maintain or improve their standard of living. “ Source for above is www.cbo.gov/publication/45096. Parker’s allegation regarding the loss of 2.5 m jobs is a big fat lie based on the CBO’s explanation of this headline (that was prominent on all right wing outlets). A closer look at what the CBO implies is certainly questionable. The CBO states 2 mil poor people may quit their jobs in order to continue qualifying for the ACA subsidies. Wait, hold on!! These folks still have living expenses to pay. They still have kids in school or college that require financial assistance. Low and middle income families are struggling while they work and the CBO believes these folks will willfully increase that struggle? Car insurance, life insurance, small loans, etc., etc., and the CBO assumes 2 mil people will quit their jobs in order to continue receiving health ins subsidies? It’s amazing how far out of touch with the common man this congress (including dems) is. A much better prediction would be that many low and middle income families who have not had insurance before may sign up for the ACA, receive a subsidy, and still drop the ins later due to a financial crisis. Health ins premiums, regardless of the amount subsidized, will be an ADDITIIONAL payment and will be the first to go when prioritizing the family budget. The idea that people who are already struggling to pay bills will decrease their income in order to continue receiving a subsidy for paying insurance is ludicrous.
Higher thought? A lie perpetuated by the dems..really? Lets examine true facts rather than just your biased opinions. 1. Is the cowboy not a repub? Did he not refer to African Americans as “plantation darks”? Did you or any other repub admonish this nut for his choice of words? No, because most of you frequently use such drivel yourselves. 2.Fox news, radio talk shows, repub elected officials, etc., have constantly made references about African Americans should be seeking jobs rather than welfare and food stamps. You are a liar if you do not admit that this type of thinking and rallying cry did not describe the GOP for the past five years or so. 3.The worst example of the GOP’s view of African Americans is this. A 17 year old unarmed kid was murdered. This kid was dehumanized and demonized unmercifully by GOP websites, talk radio, and fox news. He was called a thug, addict, thief, gangbanger, and much worse (all unproven) while his killer’s previous problems with the law were downplayed. BTW, the killer has had at least three brushes with the law since the murder. Not only was the kid disparaged, his parents were also belittled even though they both displayed the epitome of humility, grace, and dignity in the face of such a painful ordeal. One repub talk show host laid the blame of his death at the feet of his mother because she was a divorcee. Totally shameful and an utter disgrace. Malcolm X would probably see Elder and the rest of his cronies as the chumps. There is no way Malcolm would suggest that any black person should be associated with what the GOP has morphed into.
I guess the Klan convention is over and you had time to take off your poo-kickers for awhile and chat. And chat you did while calling me a racist. However, I guess your vernacular limits you to use such words as “plantation darks” in your description of African Americans. In neither of my posts have I stooped to your level to use denigrating titles that project negative connotations towards your race. But, according to you, I am the racist. I suggest you look in the mirror. Take your ten gallon hat off first. To respond to your question about Detroit, which is the first topic of conversation cons want to discuss when it comes to race related issues, most African Americans are very much disappointed with what the leadership in Detroit allowed to happen and the misappropriation of funds for personal gains that seem to describe many of those in power positions there. Did not the same inappropriate behavior occur in Chicago under white mayors and aldermen? Was the difference in Detroit was the collapse of the auto industry that shattered Detroit’s economy which drove up crime and dependency in the face of huge job losses and a middle class that fled the city? What many racist fail to realize is that people are people and good folk and bad folk come in all colors. Many blacks are hardworking and some are not. Are all whites hardworking? If so, why are there more whites on welfare than blacks? Some whites don’t have a racist bone in their body. But then there are those like you, the cowboy. Also, some blacks hate all whites so the cowboy definitely has company considering how you think.
It’s simply amazing how you took a set of facts in my post that described an entire state and identified those facts with just one segment of the Texas populace. For your information, the low stats regarding educational levels, healthcare, and household earnings reflect ALL Texans, not just African Americans. Since you decided to pounce on the black race with your post, check your facts and you will find out that more whites are receiving cash welfare payments and food stamps than African Americans so why you singled out African Americans in your post as the poor is mind boggling. By the way, the definition for imply is “to indicate or suggest without being explicitly stated”. The definition for infer is “to derive by reasoning”. You cons believe that it is factual that the majority of blacks want food stamps and welfare, therefore, you view such reasoning as an inference. Sad but true.
It’s simply amazing how you took a set of facts in my post that described an entire state and identified those facts with just one segment of the Texas populace. For your information, the low stats regarding educational levels, healthcare, and household earnings reflect ALL Texans, not just African Americans. Since you decided to pounce on the black race with your post, check your facts and you will find out that more whites are receiving cash welfare payments and food stamps than African Americans so why you singled out African Americans in your post as the poor is mind boggling. By the way, the definition for imply is “to indicate or suggest without being explicitly stated”. The definition for infer is “to derive by reasoning”. You cons believe that it is factual that the majority of blacks want food stamps and welfare, therefore, you view such reasoning as an inference. Sad but true.
It’s simply amazing how you took a set of facts in my post that described an entire state and identified those facts with just one segment of the Texas populace. For your information, the low stats regarding educational levels, healthcare, and household earnings reflect ALL Texans, not just African Americans. Since you decided to pounce on the black race with your post, check your facts and you will find out that more whites are receiving cash welfare payments and food stamps than African Americans so why you singled out African Americans in your post as the poor is mind boggling. By the way, the definition for imply is “to indicate or suggest without being explicitly stated”. The definition for infer is “to derive by reasoning”. You cons believe that it is factual that the majority of blacks want food stamps and welfare, therefore, you view such reasoning as an inference. Sad but true.
Gerri, Will respond to you since you did not infer in your post that blacks want food stamps and welfare or that we are just an ignorant and uneducated people. Messaging is a problem in the GOP. You have people like the cowboy below who still uses phrases such as “plantation darks” and the like to identify people of color they disagree with. Your talk show hosts (limbo, Levin) refer to people of color as victims and parasites who only want freebies from the government. If the GOP used its influence on corporate America to forge new ideas to help grow the middle class such as private-public partnerships designed to create opportunities for jobs and/or training in areas designated as employment or economically distressed rather than identifying “inner city” males as lazy (i.e. Ryan), the view of the party would be vastly different from what it is today.
Gerri, Will respond to you since you did not infer in your post that blacks want food stamps and welfare or that we are just an ignorant and uneducated people. Messaging is a problem in the GOP. You have people like the cowboy below who still uses phrases such as “plantation darks” and the like to identify people of color they disagree with. Your talk show hosts (limbo, Levin) refer to people of color as victims and parasites who only want freebies from the government. If the GOP used its influence on corporate America to forge new ideas to help grow the middle class such as private-public partnerships designed to create opportunities for jobs and/or training in areas designated as employment or economically distressed rather than identifying “inner city” males as lazy (i.e. Ryan), the view of the party would be vastly different from what it is today.
Ron, Did you read the cowboy's inference above that states black folk only receives welfare and food stamps from the Obama adm? Is this not the general belief of the repub party? Just recently, Ryan made a statement about the inner city poor not wanting to work. We know that "inner city" is a dog whistle to the racist base of the repub party. Per me, you are one ignorant bigot who hides behind a history of the repub party that made a radical change in its philosophy regarding the poor in general and black folk specifically beginning with Ronald Reagan.
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