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Abortion Strips A Woman’s Free Choice

Denise67 Wrote: Jan 21, 2013 5:59 AM
Regarding adoption: Are you aware that adoptees are 2-3% of the population -- and 16% of serial murderers? Are you aware that adoptees are 15 times more likely than other people to kill one or both parents? I want to decrease abortion. Women who aren't prepared to carry to term should not get pregnant. That is the way to decrease abortion.
Earl29 Wrote: Jan 21, 2013 8:03 AM
Adopted Child Syndrome (ACS) has been used as a defense for decades. I'm not sure how that effects the numbers. One would think that, since adopted children are generally superior in education and income as adults, that number would be counter-intuitive, but I have not done sufficient research to contest it.
Denise67 Wrote: Jan 21, 2013 8:08 AM
Look up "Uncharted Waters: The Forensics of Adoption." Adoptees are vastly over-represented as serial murderers and as parricides.
They might also do well on average in many ways. One thing doesn't automatically contradict the other.
One reason for this might be that a baby automatically is emotionally attached to the body in which it grew and out of which he or she was born.
Earl29 Wrote: Jan 21, 2013 9:05 AM
And some adoptive parents might be abusive and thus invite retaliation. Scientific reality is so much simpler.
Denise67 Wrote: Jan 21, 2013 9:54 AM
Yes. The reasons aren't completely clear. The statistical connections between adoption and both serial murder and parricide ARE clear.
Earl29 Wrote: Jan 21, 2013 7:33 AM
Actually, Denise, adopted children reach higher education levels, have higher incomes, and are less likely to be in poverty than biological children.

Denise67 Wrote: Jan 21, 2013 8:14 AM
Here's a link to an article about adoption forensics
http://crimemagazine.com/adoption-forensics-connection-between-adoption-and-murder
Earl29 Wrote: Jan 21, 2013 9:03 AM
I saw that, but I'm not sure how reliable that is. I had planned to check it out, but haven't got around to it.
Nam65-66 Wrote: Jan 21, 2013 6:35 AM
Then lets kill them in the womb.That will teach them!
Denise67 Wrote: Jan 21, 2013 6:54 AM
No. Let's ensure that the women who get pregnant are those who want to have babies.
Earl29 Wrote: Jan 21, 2013 7:52 AM
Women who don't want to get pregnant should use birth control. It's inexpensive and easy. It's the responsible thing to do.
Denise67 Wrote: Jan 21, 2013 8:16 AM
I personally believe that women who are unwilling to carry to term should refuse to engage in the type of sex that leads to pregnancy unless they are sterile. Almost all contraception has failure rates. Women relying on contraception should either abstain from that type of sex or be prepared to carry the "oopsie" to term.
Refraining from that sex act doesn't have to mean a lack of sexual enjoyment.
Earl29 Wrote: Jan 21, 2013 9:01 AM
So I've heard. Of course, I wouldn't know from experience. That's a joke by the way, Denise. I have to explain that to some people. Not to you, I'm sure, but others are reading too.

The way to end abortion is to show women that abortion strips them of freedom. Abortion does not preserve choice; abortion pollutes choice.

Not All Free Choices Are Beneficial

Killing in the name of freedom does not preserve one’s own freedom. Women nearly always have the freedom to kill; they do not always have the right to kill.

Pro-choice activists tell women that in order to preserve their freedom, they must defend their right to kill their children. But the question is not whether an act is committed freely, but whether it is an objectively good act. If you freely...