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Will Democrats End Marriage As We Know It?

DEmike Wrote: Aug 01, 2012 11:17 AM
Yes, they do. Consent in this sense is equated with the notion of individual freedom. It’s odd that conservatives would oppose that. And the notion of “age of consent” is a relatively recent idea when compared to the idea of marriage which goes back to the beginnings of society. It is one of the many ways in which marriage has been redefined throughout its long history.
Jay Wye Wrote: Aug 01, 2012 7:25 PM
people got married at earlier ages because people didn't live that long back then.
If you wanted to pass on your genes,you got married early and had lots of kids,so that some might survive.
DCM in FL Wrote: Aug 01, 2012 12:10 PM
Fair enough.

You seem like a smart guy, and more open-minded than many, but I see I'm sometimes having a hard time telling just where you're coming from.
DEmike Wrote: Aug 01, 2012 12:07 PM
DMC: That’s an equivocation. A more accurate statement is that however many times marriage has been redefined, it has never varied from the male/female relationship. That is a statement that I could not refute. And it is the one vestige of strength in the argument against same-sex marriages.
DCM in FL Wrote: Aug 01, 2012 11:38 AM
It's true that people often used to get married at younger ages than they do now. That's largely because people were equipped to be adults at much younger ages.

And marriage has not been "redefined" many ways throughout its history (though approaches to it have changed). It had one meaning at the beginning, and anything different from that (i.e., polygamy) was a departure from the standard.

When the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) passed in Congress in 1996, the vote was bi-partisan and overwhelming. In the House, the tally was 342-67. Only the farthest left of Democrats and a handful of Republicans voted against it. A majority of Democrats supported marriage. In the Senate, the vote was even more lopsided and bi-partisan, 85-14. Again, most Democrats backed marriage. In both houses of Congress, the DOMA passed with such strong margins that President Clinton could clearly see the measure had better than "veto strength." That is, if he had vetoed the Defense of Marriage Act, Congress could have...