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Whiny Atheists Protest Charlie Brown Christmas Special

Dean197 Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 11:33 AM
The tough, Hemingway-esque Christian parents would pitch a fit if a public school took their children to a mosque to see a live presentation of a Charlie Brown Christmas. From the title I thought Giles might have a point (if the problem had really been what they were going to see instead of where they were going to see it), but the article is about him missing it. You wouldn't want your children going to a Hindu temple under government supervision. Think about it.
sknowles Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 12:23 PM
Seriously, it is a play, that happens to be put on by a church, I am sure they did not preach. If it was not distorted (i.e. Linus preaches about Allah), I would have no problem with it being held in a mosque. Of course the content could be presented differently, but I would expect the play notice to point it out.

You also might have to understand that since many schools have NO budget for things like plays now days, that in some cases this might be all your going to get. And typically, Christian/Catholic churches do things like make plays and invite schools to them (in some cases even busing them in if the school can't) because that is who we are.
Barbara1247 Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 11:59 AM
I see your point, but as long as I'm free to keep my child at home or put them in another school activity that day, I don't have a problem with other parents deciding that their children will attend the presentation (regardless of where it is held). I'm an atheist, and like Mr. Giles, prefer the Hitchens type to the obnoxious sort whose greatest worry in life is that someone, somewhere might observe their religious beliefs in public.
sknowles Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 12:29 PM
Very good Barbara, though for your kids sake I would go to the effort of asking a few questions from the school or church about the content. I am sure the church is not going to have a sermon for the kids or push Christ on them. They will answer questions if asked I am sure, but in most of these the point is to do service (i.e. give a play) for the kids. Some of the plays might not even be in the sanctuary, but in a multi-purpose room.

Of course if athiests are like vampires, they may burst into flames if they step into a church ;)
McCargar Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 3:55 PM
I don't mind the public displays, and I hope you don't mind me using my constitutionally protected rights to speak against your religion.

In a single sentence, what I think of your religion: Only an immoral, insane god would "bless" a family? with a baby that the god has marked with a sin for an act it didn't commit, then kill himself to save us from his eternal damnation.

The concept of babies being born marked with sin because of the actions of a mythological ancestor is immoral.

Believing that someone else could be tortured to death for your perceived sins, and accepting his torture and death as absolution of your sin, is immoral

Eating the body and drinking the blood of your tortured and killed savior is a pagan practice.
BK22 Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 4:48 PM
1st amendment provides me with my rights for Freedom OF Religion...so just step aside and move along.
nomad5 Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 5:13 PM
I have to ask: Have you seriously tried to have an honest conversation with Christ about what you think? Have you ever sought out what HE thinks about what He did? You think it's immoral--suppose He does not? What then????

If you say, "I don't believe in God, so I don't have to worry about asking Christ anything", then I'd have to ask: Just what are you afraid of? That you might find out you were wrong?

Here's the deal: If I as a Christian am completely wrong, and there is no God and no hereafter, all I will have missed is the potential for HIV because I didn't sleep around, and the transitory thrill from drinking and drugs. I'm a licensed professional engineer, so don't blather to me about how I don't understand science--more
nomad5 Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 6:53 PM
#2--I've been doing science for 57 years. Science--real science--never conflicts with the image of a sovereign God. So to wrap up...I've missed nothing and enjoyed much here because of the grace of God, but if it all wound up being fiction I've STILL enjoyed my life here. If on the other hand it's all true and you DON'T receive God's grace, then when life is over what do YOU have to look forward to?

I'm completely serious: Go seek after Christ until you are certain you have found Him, and then discuss His sacrifice with him. God guarantees that if you seek Him with your whole heart, you will find him.

May God bless you richly with His presence.
Ken6226 Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 11:44 AM
Why would a mosque host a presentation of "A Charlie Brown Christmas"? Are you really that stupid?

"You wouldn't want your children going to a Hindu temple under government supervision."

But you liberals would defend such action in the name of "cultural diversity". Hypocritical much? At least the children in this case were given a choice.

The atheists I grew up with in Texas were a tad bit pluckier than today’s lardy hagfish atheists who file lawsuits every winter when they see a child wrapped in swaddling clothes.

Yep, the anti-theists I used to hang out with in the Lone Star state were rugged individualists who were so busy milking this existence that they didn’t have time to bleat like a stuck sheep because a plastic baby Jesus statue endangered their delicate beliefs.

My other non-believing buddies who weren’t the robust Hemingway types were usually heady stoners who were into physics, Pink Floyd and Frisbee and were...