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Correct. It wasn't random. It was a frequently armed thug who intimidated his neighbors, often had vehicles towed, was described as 'always angry', whom the vicitim's brother described as not using anti-Muslim rhetoric in his arguments who finally snapped and shot the neighbors he most frequently had parking disputes with. It wasn't random. It just didn't have to do with the group identities of the murderers or the victims.
Funny, the media seems full of articles about it.
Um, Stalinist and Maoist and 'Pol Potist' disequals 'secular humanists'. 'Secular humanist' is not a synonym for 'atheist'. Humanism, whether the religious or secular version, is a specific thing, and communism is a different specific thing. Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot were simply not humanists of any stripe. Not all secular humanists are progressives, either. Our military is certainly not evil, but our government sometimes employs it in questionable ways.
When a Christian kills Sikhs thinking they're Muslims, it's reported as 'Gunman kills Sikhs'. When it's an atheist, suddenly 'gunman' doesn't suffice as enough information. The guy was an atheist, I'd say libertarian based on his support for both gun rights and marriage equality, married (despite the author's bizarre side notes about being 'sexless' and 'never knowing a loving touch', and well known for wearing his gun to arguments over parking and noise. The people he killed were his neighbors, with whom he frequently had disputes. Maybe there was anti-Muslim bigotry as a factor, but frankly, if the vicitms weren't Muslims, this would be just a guy who seemed constantly on the verge of snapping who finally did. I don't see any'conservative Christians' being blamed.
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Dean197 Wrote: Feb 06, 2015 9:52 AM
I can't speak for David, but I'm not a progressive nor any fan of Marx. And those are 'communist paradises'. I have no more in common with Stalin because I'm an atheist than you have with bin Laden because you're a theist. Non-communist and non-former-communist countries with high rates of atheism not imposed by the power of the state (like Australia, Denmark, Germany, Iceland, and Japan) are without exception pretty decent places to live.
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Dean197 Wrote: Feb 06, 2015 9:44 AM
Calling your subjective assessment that one particular moral code is the right one when you can't prove that what's its based on is true 'objective' leaves you relying on your own judgment as much as any atheist. You can't escape the responsibility of deciding for yourself what is right and what is wrong.
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Dean197 Wrote: Feb 06, 2015 9:42 AM
Because science continually undergoes self-revision it continually improves, and has yielded the modern world and all its wonders. What you sneer at is the secret to its success.
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Dean197 Wrote: Feb 06, 2015 9:37 AM
I'm not mad at you, Frank, just not very impressed. Centuries of moral philosophy to draw on and you fall back on not being able to know something is wrong unless an authority says it's wrong. For starters, with Dawkins, you're committing the naturalistic fallacy: it does not follow that if nature is indifferent, we should also be indifferent. And you seem to be confusing 'objective' with 'universal'. For human beings, it is objectively true that some ways of ordering our societies lead to more of us being relatively free, happy, healthy, safe and fulfilled than others. And the axiom that it's a good thing for people to be those things should be enough moral grounding for anyone.
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Dean197 Wrote: Feb 04, 2015 9:32 AM
I don't think there are ANY qualified scientists still saying there's a connection between vaccination and autism since the doctor who first claimed the connection was exposed as a fraud paid off to find a connection by apecial interests aiming to sue the vaccine companies.
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Dean197 Wrote: Feb 04, 2015 9:28 AM
Vaccines are not harmless. They are just lower risk than not getting them. Especially if not getting them becomes a fad. The people who first stopped getting their kids their vaccniations didn't have to pay much of a price, because the children around their children were vaccinated. Now that protection has deteriorated and it's time to pay the piper.
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