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Dead Right Wrote: Aug 19, 2014 4:46 PM
Agreed. I describe a child as a 53 year old that has been allowed to play with the levers of government and has no clue. The man-child president...
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Dead Right Wrote: Aug 19, 2014 11:27 AM
Yes, freedom to choose anything with other people paying for the consequences of bad choices. That is the democrat, liberal, statist position. Never mind that it impoverishes the nation and removes financial freedom and ultimate mobility to leave the state. Entrapment by packaging it as freedom. Liberals have not had their hearts set free from sin. So they know nothing of true inner freedom.
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Dead Right Wrote: Aug 19, 2014 11:24 AM
Perhaps, after some filtering for disease, we conservatives should adopt the illegals and raise them up in our home schools and Christian schools to be good patriotic voting conservatives! It would also be cheaper than welfare...
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Dead Right Wrote: Aug 18, 2014 12:05 AM
I am sure glad you statists are so obvious as to want to show compelling reasons for state controlled lives is the kind of tyranny you want to live under. Much of morality is obvious and within nature and that going against is has logical consequences. To start to try and codify some of it strengthens a society but not a "state." To just go willy-nilly with morality and barrow to pay for the sin of sloth is to impoverish a nation to satisfy the barbaric urges self at the cost to others. Liberals want freedom to do anything without consequences. This creates debt. Conservatives at least understand that if they take one road or another it will have certain consequences. Would you prefer a law that makes killing or silencing your opponents law?
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The Most Pro-American Movie of 2014?

Dead Right Wrote: Aug 17, 2014 11:58 PM
Nailed it. Circle not a line.or another is a line and a circle. The line is anarchy on one end and tyranny on the other. History is the cycle oscillating from one to the other. Witness the tyrant obama displaying approval of the occupy anarchists. The founders figured out that by limiting government and incentivising individuals to eat from what they produce, they keep these forces in the center of the line.
That's the ticket hold up the carrot that other states have more and better free stuff! They will leave like roaches.
Liberals are the minority. They wormed their way into office with help from the communist party and big money from sorros and the like. We are being governed by a minority view against the will of the thinking people. I do not wish or need to contribute taxes to the organized crime this government has become. Why do you wish to support it? Some sort of perverse altruism?
Oh like unions that group together to sway elections and policy? Same dif, opposite politics.
History cycles from anarchy to tyranny. The founding fathers made a document to try to end that cycle and balance individual interests against the power of the collective for protection. The odious one wants to lead back to the cycle. vHe enlists the occupiers and makes law by fiat. He is trying to disturb the equilibrium set up by the founders and what worked well for 230 years.
You are both correct. The problem with libertarianism if instituted is that it requires all have the same beliefs about libertarianism. It would work fine in a society where all believed in its tenants. So it in and of itself does not lead to anarchy. Anarchy is what would happen if some in the society started rebelling against the libertarian ideals. Their would not be the requisite threat of the long arm of the law in place to deal with transgressors. It is inadequate to deal with human nature. But I generally approve of much of its tenants being implemented. It was said of the constitution that it is only for a people that seek to be "good." Now that we are breaking bad, The Constitution may be insufficient to deal with say a rogue president that flouts the laws, takes we the people funded vacations and uses the levers of government to crush opposition. For that the only remedy will be torches and pitchforks. History cycles from anarchy to tyranny. The founding fathers made a document to try to end that cycle and balance individual interests against the power of the collective for protection. The odious one wants to lead back to the cycle. vHe enlists the occupiers and makes law by fiat. He is trying to disturb the equilibrium set up by the founders and what worked well for 230 years.
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