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The Case Against “Equality”

DCM in FL Wrote: Feb 28, 2013 9:54 AM
Questions for those who want a "gay marriage": Why do you feel you need the government to sanction your relationship? Are the government’s benefits really that important to you? Do you, perhaps, subscribe to some sexual ethic that disallows your relationship from being consummated unless it is officially recognized? Or is there an ulterior reason? Since you feel your relationship with your loved one is worth government sanction, was it worth enough to you that you avoided sexual contact with others until you found that person? Was it worth enough to you that you spent, say, a year or so getting to know that person before taking the step of getting physical?
DCM in FL Wrote: Feb 28, 2013 9:54 AM
One of the reasons divorce is so common is that marriage — the intimate joining of two opposite people — is extraordinarily difficult. It takes a maturity and a willingness to grow that not everyone has. Making such a relationship work demands great unselfishness and character growth from its participants. But if they persevere, they become better people for it. This is a benefit of a committed, traditional marriage that is simply not equaled in other arrangements. What does your relationship have to offer in its place?

What purposes or goals does your relationship have that the participation of an entire gender — with all its unique, irreplaceable qualities — is unnecessary for, or even an impediment to?
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Feb 28, 2013 10:42 AM
I dont want a "gay marriage" but you asked, "Why do you feel you need the government to sanction your relationship? Are the government’s benefits really that important to you?"

Yes they are that important to me. Started with my wife getting a Visa. Then I served 17 years of active Duty Army after we were married (21 total). We got family housing, She got medical and dental, etc from the Federal Gov because I earned it as a Soldier. We got tax breaks, and she will get my Soc Sec, and retirement when I die along with more tax breaks.

Yes the Federal Benefits are very important to me. WHy would they be less important to someone in a marriage just because their spouse has the same sex as them?

DCM in FL Wrote: Feb 28, 2013 11:52 AM
"WHy would they be less important to someone in a marriage just because their spouse has the same sex as them?"

Perhaps because they're not important for the same reason. You don't need government sanction to make your relationship appear valid. Same-sex couples do.

I notice no one ever takes even a potshot at any of the rest of the questions when I ask them.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Feb 28, 2013 12:11 PM
You wrote "You don't need government sanction to make your relationship appear valid. Same-sex couples do. "

right after I listed out a bunch of government benefits I have personally gotten or my wife and I will get from marriage.

So if you say that I don't need those things are you advocating that nobody should get those things?

Providing for my family, and that includes providing for the wifes health care is VERY important to me. I am sure if I was a Lesbian it would be just as important to me. So would the other benefits.

Your contention that they are not as important to same sex couples is absurd.

Pascal said, “People almost invariably arrive at their beliefs not on the basis of proof but on the basis of what they find attractive.” So-called marriage “equality” is attractive. Who could be against equality?

But what if the word “equality” is being misused? What if that kind of equality will have the unintended consequence of hurting children, individuals and the nation? And what if everyone already has true equality?

True equality does not conflate people and behavior. People are equal but their behaviors are not. When liberals claim that certain sexual behaviors are equal – or that all outcomes...