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What Do Mormons Think About Mitt Romney's Run for the Presidency

DCM2 Wrote: May 24, 2012 8:18 AM
I have never met a Mormon, LDS, that was unkind, mean spirited or evil... Just like BAC's, some can be nasty I'm sure. Where we differ, is how we are saved. By good works or the work of Christ... Ephesians 2:8-9, 'For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
doug64 Wrote: May 24, 2012 11:59 AM
The phrase from the Book of Mormon is that it is by Grace we are saved after all we can do, which is perfectly in line with Paul's assertion that being saved by Grace is an ongoing process in which we are participants, and which we can fail even after a fine start.
IX-XI Wrote: May 24, 2012 12:20 PM
I think a lot of LDS misinterpret the BOM passage, "...for we know it is by grace we are saved, after all we can do."

Some try to say we have to do all we can before we are eligible for grace. By that impossible standard, the Celestial Kingdom will be utterly empty because nobody, ever, has done "all he could have done."

So what does it mean? I take it to mean "after all we can do, it is by grace we are saved." You could try and try, and try some more, but there is no salvation for you except by the atonement of Christ (grace).

I don't believe, and neither should any Mormon, that God requires an impossible standard of perfection. He requires a broken heart and a contrite spirit, and a covenant that covers us in grace.
Workingitthrough Wrote: May 24, 2012 10:07 AM
When reading scripture it is essential to put them in context. What audience was the Apostle speaking too. What question was being asked. Because an Apostle emphasis "faith" in my sermon does not mean that is the only principle of the gospel of Jesus Christ that is important. The same could be said about "works". Christ's Atonement overcame two deaths both came because of the Fall; Spiritual Death---separation from God and Physical Death---separation of the body from the spirit. Without Christ's suffering in Gethsemane and on the Cross neither of those deaths could have been overcome. No unclean thing can enter the presence of God. Christ paid for our sins. There would be no hope with out Christ. He made resurrection possible.
Workingitthrough Wrote: May 24, 2012 10:18 AM
I type "my sermon" when I meant to type "one sermon". There is no way to correct that but to write it again here. I also could not finish my thought because I ran out of space.
To finish I would say that resurrection is the free gift that God give to all mankind. The gift of immortality of having our body and spirit reunited for eternity. The gift of eternal life is different than immortality. It comes though the atonement of Christ and our choice to repent as he call upon us to do and then to follow him...."Come follow me" and "And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? John 15:15" These are actionable activities. Without faith in Christ there is no way we are going to act on his commandments.
MG formerly minnesotagrandma Wrote: May 24, 2012 9:28 AM
The Roman Catholic Church and some of the Protestant Churches signed a statement a few years ago.
By Grace and Grace alone we are saved, which will be manifested in our works.
Not surprised if you hadn't heard about it. Bigots don't pass on information that doesn't support their bigotry.
rmichael Wrote: May 24, 2012 8:49 AM
I guess you missed the one that says, "By their works, ye shall know them." 's okay. Most people pick out the scripture they want to believe and ignore the rest; that's why we have nearly a thousand individual religions in the nation.
MG formerly minnesotagrandma Wrote: May 24, 2012 9:25 AM
Faith without works is dead.
pragmaticapitalist Wrote: May 24, 2012 1:35 PM
Faith without works is dead! However we work "from" grace rather than "for" grace. If we're expecting grace in return for our works, then all we do is done selfishly. If we work knowing that we're already saved, then we're glorifying Him who saved us!

When Mitt Romney rules the world from the exact replica of the Oval Office hidden inside the Washington, D.C. Temple of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the Tidal Basin will turn into a giant baptismal font and the cry will go out: We are all Mormons now!

I think I got your attention.

To be clear this is not what Mormons talk about; not at all. Some overzealous denigrators of the Mormon faith would have you believe that Romney’s intentions are nefarious and theologically gratuitous – the Oval Office replica joke above is an actual and laughable...