oh, the irony of telling someone to move to an empirically-verifiable better country.

oh, the irony of telling someone to move to an empirically-verifiable better country.

oh, the irony.

the point is that this nation *was not founded on a belief in god.* it was founded by men who believed in god but who also believed that theocratic rule or the idea that their god should be the sole and immutable guiding hand of the nation were terrible, terrible things (and they were right). they didn't express the desire that the citizens of the united states should be bound to worship their specific chosen deities; they wanted that all people should be free to pursue the blessings of their own higher power without fear of persecution. and whether you like that or not, as i said before: you DO NOT have the right to force anyone who worships differently from you to think otherwise.

"liberal false information thing" right. because what our founding fathers believed -- you know, the people who actually founded our country and defined its initial course -- is not at all verifiable with an internet search. fine, i'll play along. 1892: 116 years after the foundation of the country, 105 after the ratification of our constitution. who were the men behind these documents? let's find out.

madison's belief in religious freedom, summed up perfectly: http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2001/03/james-madison-and-religious-liberty

jefferson: Though he had a lifelong esteem for Jesus' moral teachings, Jefferson did not believe in miracles, nor in the divinity of Jesus. In a letter to deRieux in 1788, he declined a request to act as a godfather, saying he had been unable to accept the doctrine of the Trinity "from a very early part of my life."

washington, from the account of his personal biographer's writings: His daily "where and how my time is spent" enables us to know exactly how often he attended church, and in the year 1760 he went just sixteen times, and in 1768 he went fourteen, these years being fairly typical of the period 1760-1773. Washington was an early supporter of religious toleration and freedom of religion. In 1775, he ordered that his troops not show anti-Catholic sentiments by burning the pope in effigy on Guy Fawkes Night.[45] When hiring workmen for Mount Vernon, he wrote to his agent, "If they be good workmen, they may be from Asia, Africa, or Europe; they may be Mohammedans [Muslims], Jews, or Christians of any sect, or they may be Atheists."

"liberal false information thing" right. because what our founding fathers believed -- you know, the people who actually founded our country and defined its initial course -- is not at all verifiable with an internet search. fine, i'll play along. 1892: 116 years after the foundation of the country, 105 after the ratification of our constitution. who wrote the constitution? let's find out.

if you're complimenting me, then thank you, sincerely. if you are making a judgment upon my non-use of capitalization, then i have no problem re-writing it. i'm not being a troll or snarky; this is just my writing style, and it can be hard on the internet to distinguish genuine commentary from snide attacks. ;)