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Missouri Takes Lead Reducing Gun and Domestic Violence

David R. Usher Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 12:35 PM
All: JUSTMC is a liberal troll throwing out all sorts of nonsensical nonsense. I will not waste my time responding to him any more as he lays out nothing deserving an honest academic discussion.
Parker01 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 3:14 PM
This just sounds like another jobs program from the state to a few friends who will require a new building or a new wing addition to an existing court house. A few state 'magistrates' to oversee the proceedings. Several new social workers hired to supervise the now labeled abusers, and an army of paper pushers and data entry personnel. Of course they will all need desks and computers and all sorts of new cars, parking spaces and pensions and benefits and big salaries courtesy of the tax payers and lots of free goodies to go along with their prestigious new positions. How stupid are people anyway?
JustMC Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 12:54 PM
Mr. Usher: one is not to be surprised that you don't know what you are talking about (or perhaps that you do and are being overtly intellectually dishonest). My record here on Townhall is quite searchable and verifiable.

You are a totalitarian statist who wants to bypass the protections of the courts, fought for so long and hard throughout history.

Anyone who chooses to look at my comments, over many months or years, can see I am consistent and DOGGEDLY persistent in my support of the Constitution and the natural rights it RECOGNIZES.

Attempting to label me a "liberal troll" rather than addressing my points is not "honest academic discussion" and any sensible person can see you are simply dodging the issues.
JustMC Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 12:58 PM
What is nice is you have exposed yourself obviously and early. Look down the list of comments. Townhall has plenty of fools to go with the good people, but folks here, by and large, saw through your pet legisation right away. The closest you got to any real support was VERY cautious optimism, filled with caveats about the potential abuses. And those were the few comments that went halfway your way (not that truth is voted).

But the bottom line is people who appreciate freedom saw through your end-run around the courts. And rather than defend the detail, you resort to lobbing around "liberal troll."

Pathetic. But I'll take a clumsy-wolf-statist who can't hide in sheep's clothing over one who can. Any day. Thanks for being...
JustMC Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 1:01 PM
MadisonWannabe Wrote: Feb 12, 2013 8:32 PM
JustMC.............................You are not a troll but a very reasoned person who has debunked David Usher so completely that his only recourse is to vilify you. I am right with you on this. This is a very bad piece of legislation that will only get worse with time. It will be used to break up families and give the unelected bureaucrats an in for all sorts of mischief in any family or against any person they dislike.
JustMC Wrote: Feb 13, 2013 10:28 AM
Thanks for both your kind words and your lucid comments here (that clearly show the wisdom of the history so few are ever taught by anyone but themselve).
JustMC Wrote: Feb 13, 2013 10:32 AM
And btw, thanks to a bunch of others, too. Seems like nearly everyone who showed up to comment on this piece had the good sense to see through it. And even the most open-minded and experimental offered a great deal of caution about the potential abuses and unintended consequences. It's refreshing, and rare to see this much wisdom nowadays.

Missouri House Bill 402 is a major step forward reducing gun violence, domestic violence, and other forms of serious violence. For decades, federal and state policy attempting to impact these growing problems failed because the policies were pointed in the wrong direction.

Substance abuse in the family is the leading factor and primary driver of many kinds of gun-related crimes, domestic violence, and other offenses.

Substance abuse is tightly bound to domestic violence. Three-quarters of serious domestic violence is associated with substance abuse at the time of violence (Fig 3). This statistic does not include substance abusers who...