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Missouri Takes Lead Reducing Gun and Domestic Violence

David R. Usher Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 12:30 PM
False allegations will be cleared by the substance abuse treatment center. they interview both spouses. Many of the individuals working in the substance abuse field are recovering abusers themselves. You can't fool these folks. They can smell a substance abuse a mile away. They have a form used to report status back to the court, and can indicate who (if anyone) has a substance abuse problem. In the case of co-substance-abusers, both of them will end up pursuing recovery.
DKJ Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 8:59 PM
Got it. The burden of proof is upon the accused. And how do you find this to reinforce American values? Where does the presumption of innocence factor in?

It doesn't. You want to appoint some "experts" - who will be compensated or rated based upon how many people are in the program, and you expect them to be unbiased.

I'm a resident of Missouri, as it happens. I'll be contacting my state reps and senators to let them know how little I think of this, as it is being proposed.

It's not a bad idea - but the execution doesn't even offer the most basic protections.
JustMC Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 12:32 PM
Oh, great. The magical "substance abuse treatment center" can somehow do what no court can do, and without any of the protections a court accords for the falsely accused.

It's a magic bell of truth, appearing on the cat. It slices, it dices, it irons your shirts, gets out embarassing stains on your collar...


Missouri House Bill 402 is a major step forward reducing gun violence, domestic violence, and other forms of serious violence. For decades, federal and state policy attempting to impact these growing problems failed because the policies were pointed in the wrong direction.

Substance abuse in the family is the leading factor and primary driver of many kinds of gun-related crimes, domestic violence, and other offenses.

Substance abuse is tightly bound to domestic violence. Three-quarters of serious domestic violence is associated with substance abuse at the time of violence (Fig 3). This statistic does not include substance abusers who...