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In 2016, GOP Needs a Candidate Voters Believe In

davidfarrar Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 11:32 AM
"Unless the Republican Party reinvents itself to appeal to those voters, the argument goes, the GOP can get used to being out of power...There's something to that." No, there isn't. There is nothing in the GOP political platform that can even remotely be considered out of step with any ethnic group in the Republic.. ex animo davidfarrar
Righty3 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 11:53 AM
I'm a NYer watching my once-great state turn darker and darker blue. Inner city unemployment is triple national norms. NY nears bankruptcy, even with taxes among the highest in the country. Those with the means flee the state, replaced by Hispanics and other components of the growing American "underclass".

From inner city blacks and Latinos to the Jewish elite, none of these groups can quite pull the lever for the guy with the "R" next to his name. This same is true in CA, MA, NJ, IL, MD - and apparently, NV, VA and maybe FL. How long before TX and AZ are added to the list?

You may be right about GOP's values, but I can't envision it mattering to an increasingly dumbed-down electorate who just wants to take what the rest have worked for.
Cleombrotus2011 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 12:03 PM
It's not just the underclasses and Jewish. It's an entire mindset that is infecting a growing portion of the population.
Righty3 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 12:10 PM
You are of course correct...American Jews, blacks and Hispanics are perhaps the best examples of groups ultimately voting against their own long term interests, but we could include many others: the under-25 crowd, single white women, union workers, muslims, criminals, acedemics and so on.
Righty3 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 12:16 PM
The key take-away is that conservatives have always considered America to be a center-right, Christian country. Previous Liberals victories could thus be explained away by the notion that they were temporary, and the will of the people would eventually carry things in a more conservative direction.

My personal believe is that this is no longer true. America is increasingly a country of third-world "sheep" with no particular values, and willing to trade their loyalty for things as trivial as contraceptives or the color of a candidate's skin.

In this world, there is no more "right" and "wrong", and the political direction of the country comes down more to marketing and giveaways than anything else. Welcome to Obama's fundamental change.
Cleombrotus2011 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 12:22 PM
Well said. That hits the nail on the head. That's why I said, concerning this column that it's just another prescription for addressing with pitics what is essentially a problem of morals, or the lack thereof.
Dave M Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 3:18 PM
Righty- those people fleeing your state took their liberal mindset with them are are in the process of NY'ing their adopted states.

In the wake of Mitt Romney's loss, many Republicans say the GOP must make far-reaching changes to be competitive in future elections. White voters are a smaller and smaller part of the electorate, they point out, while Latinos and other minorities are growing as a percentage of the voting public. Unless the Republican Party reinvents itself to appeal to those voters, the argument goes, the GOP can get used to being out of power.

There's something to that. The electorate is changing, and the Republican Party needs to keep up with the times. But the more fundamental answer to the...