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The Irreconcilable Conflict

David1454 Wrote: Sep 18, 2012 12:44 PM
Significant error on Pat's part: Joseph Smith was not "lynched" in Illinois. He was killed in a shootout (he was armed and shooting at the time), as his followers tried to break him out of jail for inciting a civil disturbance (a newspaper was burned down by Smith's followers). Pat is usually more careful about his facts, but missed this one, big time.
lmoreno Wrote: Sep 18, 2012 2:03 PM
Sorry, David, this is inaccurate. Joseph Smith was gunned down in cold blood by a mob of cowards with their faces painted black to avoid recognition, not in a shoot out. His friends including his brother, Hyrum were with him, giving him comfort for being falsely imprisoned, yet again on trumped up charges. He did not fire a single shot at those attacking him. Pat was right except for the "lynching" part and I would also say that the majority of faithful Protestants were horrified and most good people everywhere would to this day be horrified at the depravity of the murderous cowards who killed him.
"Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,

"Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God's great Judgment Seat."

Thus did Kipling, the Poet of Empire, caution the British about the Eastern world the Victorians and Edwardians believed to be theirs.

And with that world so inflamed against us, perhaps we should inspect more closely our irreconcilable conflict -- what Harvard's Michael Ignatieff calls "the fatal dialectic between Islamic rage and Western free speech." Consider first American values, as seen from an ACLU point of view.

Our establishment holds that not only is there to...