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ATF Royally Screws Up, Again

Dave64 Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 7:58 AM
We need to find that document and post it ALL OVER the internet!!
LeishaC Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 8:05 AM
Ok you've said this twice -- you really want undercover agents outed so any investigations they are working on would be ruined, and they could possibly be killed? Nice.
rhinegarten Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 8:08 AM
Those agents knew it was a risky business when they signed on for it.
InAmericaSince1627 Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 8:13 AM
No. But what punishment should there be for incompetence.

It should not matter if the list is published as those on it should no longer work for any law enforcement agancy. Nor should they ever again...
Jay Wye Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 8:15 AM
Have you ever read Unintended Consequences by John Ross?
rhinegarten Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 8:22 AM
I did, about 15 or 20 years ago. Of course by admitting it here we are now marked.
Parker01 Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 8:42 AM
Ummm... if you read the article, the agents have already been outed. The ATF left "the list," behind. ahem... I'm just sayin'... And in response to your question- undercover is just an excuse for 'law-enforcement' to engage in illegal activity with a supposed, "nobler cause," of stopping illegal activity. Seems rather illogical. Encouraging law-breaking in order to stop and prevent law-breaking. Sounds like a government program to me. Why not just encourage values, morals and ethics in the youth of each generation? It worked until the early 60's. Funny-that's when government started getting too big to fail. And they want me to trust them for my health, retirement, and personal safety. Hmmm... I don't think so.
InAmericaSince1627 Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 9:11 AM
Well said Parker01, well said.
Parker01 Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 10:08 AM
Nah... just an old NAVY vet with a lot of pent up confusion about what the heck is going on in this once great land. As Spock would say, "Logic dictates." I see no logic in the practice of law-enforcement these days. They spend more time and resources on engaging in law-breaking in order to 'prevent' law-breaking than the mobsters of the 20's through the 40's. It's really insane when you analyze it.
Tracker 3 Wrote: Jan 31, 2013 10:21 AM
I agree with you but, why would any agency keep a list of their undercover agents in their "operation" location where the bad guys frequent. And to be so cavalier with sensitive documents to leave the location and not check for important items. Poor management and even poorer self preservation of the officers at the locale.

You've probably heard the old joke about how the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store not a federal agency, but the latest ATF screw up in Wisconsin proves they aren't even capable of doing that properly. From the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:

A store calling itself Fearless Distributing opened early last year on an out-of-the-way street in Milwaukee's Riverwest neighborhood, offering designer clothes, athletic shoes, jewelry and drug paraphernalia.

Those working behind the counter, however, weren't interested in selling anything.

They were undercover agents from the U.S....