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Occupy the Media: If You Can’t Beat Them, Join Them

Das_Veritas Wrote: Nov 08, 2012 4:49 PM
This whole The Mainstream Media is Liberal meme is ridiculously false. Television: Fox News is the #1 watched news program(2nd place isn’t even close). Owned by News Corp. Newspapers: The Wall Street Journal has one of the largest circulations. Owned by News Corp. Radio: The Rush Limbaugh Show is #1, The Sean Hannity Show is #2, The Glenn Beck Show and Mark Levin Show are tied for 3rd. The problem isn't the “Lamestream Media” conspiring to undermining conservatives. The problem is the Grand Old Party needs brand new ideas...the old ideas aren't winning elections.
Lawrence235 Wrote: Nov 09, 2012 11:53 AM
Wrong. Fox News is the number one CABLE news network. The majority of Americans don't watch cable news. ABC/NBC/CBS out perform Fox News Cable.
Far more Americans DON'T listen to Limbaugh/Beck/Hannity/Levin than do. Just a little perspective Das_Veritas.
The majority of Americans don't even follow public and governmental affairs to any significant extent. However, many of them do vote. I talk about public policy at work constantly. I work in a highly educated group of people. I am constantly amazed at how willfully ignorant of what's happening in the Nation these people are. Don't understand the difference between Debt and Deficit and use the terms interchangeably. Have never read the Constitution.
RMRussell Wrote: Nov 09, 2012 10:05 AM
Au contraire, Das. Living within our means, not giving away the farm, and not over- reaching as a government--in other words,following the Constitution--are PRETTY DAMNED GOOD IDEAS.
Fighting back against Progressive lies against us will do more than turning our party into something it isn't philosophically. We should just be WHO WE ARE which is GOOD AND DECENT . Say, we could use a Publicity Agent,so-to-speak! We don't get our message out as one voice! We have to stop allowingthe Progressives' definition of us to stand!
JennyS Wrote: Nov 09, 2012 9:11 AM
By your own argument - the popularity of Fox, Rush, Sean, Beck, and Levin - the logical move for the GOP is to move in a Tea Party direction.

That is what you meant, right? :)

Anthony241 Wrote: Nov 08, 2012 10:05 PM
It's not about which outlet has the most viewers. It's about which viewpoint has the most viewers. The viewer count of the few very popular conservative outlets is swamped by the aggregate viewer count of the much more numerous liberal outlets.

And it's not a conspiracy. It's an echo chamber.

The GOP has several problems, but I see messaging as a bigger issue than their underlying ideology. Not the *only* issue, but bigger than ideology.
John C6 Wrote: Nov 08, 2012 7:35 PM
Dear Das,

Fine, except you left out all of the BROADCAST networks, all of which have larger viewerships
than Cable/Satellite FOXNEWS, and ALL of the major newspapers & magazines, like the LA
TIMES, NYT, the AP news service, CNN, etc. Time Magazine & CNN are owned by liberal
billionaire Ted Turner.

The media is overwhelmingly liberal. I live in Colorado. The DENVER POST newspaper
is so liberal, even my liberal friends think it's a bad joke.


John Lepant
bigdawgworking Wrote: Nov 08, 2012 5:55 PM
Although I agree with you, one point: the Wall Street Journal is one of the most liberal newspapers in the country. You can google it. (I first read that shocking claim ... in the WSJ several years ago.) The Wall Street Journal Op/Ed page is conservative. Not the news.
Verbivore Wrote: Nov 08, 2012 4:53 PM
No. It's not the the people who watch the's the people who DON'T and are allowed to vote anyone. People who only absorb by osmosis some faction of news...and THAT is msm attitude.
For the next few weeks pundits, political consultants, activists and everyone else will be offering their reasons for why Republicans not only lost the presidential election, but several important Senate and House seats. Republicans of every stripe lost, so I don’t see this as a tea party versus the establishment scenario. People smarter and with more experience in electoral politics will talk about the candidates’ flaws and demographic realities. However, in seeing the exit polls and talking to friends who are not politically-inclined, one thing became clear to me: The media defined this election.

For many years conservatives have...