But to further explain the pertinence to moral suasion of one’s frame of reference, and to raise your blood pressure all the more, I support abortion rights because of the core conviction that the highest level of privacy is between a woman and her relationship with God, if they have one. If their legal choice to abort is morally wrong, they’ll find out about it in due time if there is a God and if She disdains. If there isn’t a God, it’s all moot. Since none of you can prove the existence of God, nor when the spirit and soul enters the zygote, your frame of reference will not marry with mine. Nor did it with the manner in which the majority of the Supreme Ct ruled in the Texas case or how they will in regards to Prop 8 and DOMA.

From Reagan to most comments herein, the attempts at didactic reasoning based on PERSONAL application of morality are successful ONLY when they marry with similar frames of reference. Fortunately, history shows that those frames of reference change with the times. And, of course, the times are always changing. The market researcher in me is pretty confident most of you are older white males who have trouble understanding today's world in all it's glory and contradictions. You know your time is up and it's not easy to accept that gay marriage is slowly, surely, inevitably winning the day. Being chained to past Supreme Ct minority opinions, your interpretation of the Constitution or the Bible is a hopeless flaying against societal tides.

In my Left Coast God's Country (by all physical, materialistic, and esoterically spiritual measures) county north of the belly of the liberal beast, many of my neighbors and friends are legally married gay couples. Whatever the F says on their marriage licenses is functionally meaningless except to an angry guy like you.

BFD!

You're an idiot, Camberbutt. Most heterosexuals aren't married now either. Having the right to do something does not obligate acting on that right. The only lie here is that you and your kind can't admit that 1) you are slowly and surely losing the antigay marriage "culture ware" and 2) that the marriage rights issue has always been about equality under federal law, which 3) invariably trumps the weak-kneed "historic definition" argument from the constitutional standpoint. Rant all you want, but you're wasting your time and raising your blood pressure. Besides, as so repeatedly telling by every one of your comments, you are surely not exercising your brain in the process, which only further solidifies the GOP as the "Party of Stupid"!

Times change. They have since the dawn of time. Get used to it because there is nothing you or your un-evolved, angry homophobes can do about it, especially because your offspring have already relegated this issue to the dustpan of history. In the meantime, comments like yours give fodder for people like me who like to make comments like this for fun on our coffee breaks.

Dude, there is no correlation between inter-racial marriage and how blacks voted in regards to Prop 8. Try another inane and pointless argument if it will make you feel better.

Not chance in Hades that will happen since the future citizens of this great country will never countenance such inane thoughts.

Your chauvinistic statements about Catholics is moronic and your question even more idiotic. But here is a rebuttal and answer: Preamble: I was raised Catholic. Being Catholic is no better or worse than being a member of any other faith, save for devil worship. Catholics have done much for the country, but not more than anyone from any another faith en masse. Of course, primarily only Catholic priest have repeatedly abused children, while the church hierarchy repeatedly broke state and federal laws hiding the culprits. This is collective Catholic moral turpitude at its worst. There are good gays and bad gays, just like good homophobes (presumably like yourself) and bad ones.

I work in socia/marketing research. After reading every one of the comments here, it is scientifically telling that the vast majority of respondees who agree with Buchannan's premise that the GOP is dead BY ITS OWN HAND are demographicaly white, male, retired or nearly so, angry, probably very religious and willing -- because it's generally been their bent in life - to always blame someone else. Just like Pat. Unfortunately for guys like Pat and most readers here, the demography of the country is permanently changing, along with cultural attitudes and national expectations.The world Pat made his life in, just like his forefathers, is no longer and will not be coming back. Grin and bear it or emotionally die a slow death like Pat.

One of the businesses I own is in research and its interesting to see how people from all demographics express their sentiments went the issue is one in which thgey are heavily invested emotionally. Considering the frame of reference here, ie staunch conservatism and the venting ground that is all things Townhall, when you push buttons with nameless respondees you get all sort of off-center reactions that reveal inner feelings. Extrapolate those to the society at large and you have a clear picture of what's wrong with the body politic,