1 - 10 Next
What the hell is "natural law", other than by your definition, not mine, that it takes sperm and egg from opposite genders to produce human life? What does that have to do with two people wanting legal recognition of their desire to live together forever? Since you can't reconcile the argument above with your anti-gay beliefs, you remain hidden in your own chasm of stifled evolution and discomfort. So be it. The rest of society will move on without you.
In response to:

Setting the Record Straight on SB 1062

Dante9 Wrote: Feb 26, 2014 10:16 PM
Also under the Constitution is the right to equal protection under the law, which is the basis for the recent US Supreme Ct ruling in the DOMA and California Prop 8 matters, which is now the precedent that will eventually defeat all state laws against gay marriage or laws like AR Senate Bill 102. There is more weight behind this precedent that your citing the right to burn a flag or not serve gay people at a gas station. Thankfully, Governor Brewer and the Texas Federal judge today told you free speech and religious-righters to eat cake!
In response to:

Setting the Record Straight on SB 1062

Dante9 Wrote: Feb 26, 2014 8:57 PM
My answer to you, and apparently your governor's too, is TO MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS AND LET GAYS LIVE HOWEVER THEY WISH WITHOUT THE THREAT OF LEGISLATIVE DISCRIMINATION BEHIND THE SHIELD OF RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE. However, since I have spent enough time in Texas I would certainly accept if all of your kind moved there and the state was allowed (no encouraged) to secede. Nothing would stop it from eventually soon becoming the bowel of North America.
In response to:

Setting the Record Straight on SB 1062

Dante9 Wrote: Feb 26, 2014 8:52 PM
That would have been vetoed, too, or eventually ruled federally unconstitutional. The argument remains: You cannot legislate discrimination against a class of people simply because you do not like their lifestyle. When you base that dislike on a "violation of your religious beliefs" you have further weakened the cause since it's introduces religion into the state/federal sphere. Your side lost in Arizona and will in all other states in due time. The Due Process of Social Justice for All will prevail. The sooner you get accept that the lower your blood pressure and the more time you will have to pray for all us sinners from California.
In response to:

Setting the Record Straight on SB 1062

Dante9 Wrote: Feb 26, 2014 8:25 PM
There is no straw argument to my point, which I will summarize is more literary language: Arizona Bill #1062 simple is much to do about nothing! Period. But the Religious Wrong in this state and across the country are finding themselves slowly being defeated in BOTH the legal and public opinion courts on gay marriage. So, as a they gasp at the last straws of futile attempts at a legal victory to rally their dwindling base of anti-gay agenda-sandistas, this "violation of my personal religious beliefs" claptrap is all they could come up with. What a canard. Fortunately, as was proven in Texas today, saner minds will grease erase these blemishing, shallow skid marks in the inevitable march towards full equality and social justice for all, regardless of what one group thinks or why. PS: I am straight and religious, but I don't wear my political sentiments across my rosary. Nor should you.
In response to:

Setting the Record Straight on SB 1062

Dante9 Wrote: Feb 26, 2014 8:25 PM
The only thing our finally evolving society is forcing the baker, and hopefully you, too, to do is completely grasp the fundamental importance of separating church and state in all matters between buyers and sellers, the relationship between the sexes, genders and sexual preferences. Otherwise, we will become no different over time that the Muslim world. Or to put in more saliently in terms of biblical phraseology, "Render under Cesaer (14th Amendment et al) what is just and Cesaer's....and render to God what is His." As far as I can tell, God isn't telling bakers in Arizona to discriminate against gay nuptials. And if your interpretation is that means to go on hating just the "sin", not the "sinner", then do so in a way that doesn't come across so hateful towards the latter. That's no way to bake a Christian message.
In response to:

Setting the Record Straight on SB 1062

Dante9 Wrote: Feb 26, 2014 6:32 PM
No sane, objective observer -- no matter their personal religious beliefs or lack thereof -- would seriously claim the emotional, visceral, mental and personal anguish any baker, florist or photographer across the land from being legally obligated NOT to outright refuse to sell their services/products to people who live lifestyles they object grossly outweighs the emotional pain and suffering of the latter rejected group. I mean, seriously. If you are devout Christian opposed to gay marriage and all things gay, why can't you muster enough Christ-like attitude to simple turn the damn cheek and bake that damn cake? That would be the wise, non-discriminatory thing to do. But how does the gay couple forget that the florist on the corner has a sign that says "We don't sell bouquets to faggots!" And what to they explain to their children when this sign is perfectly legal and not in anyway derogatory or slanderous under state law in Arizona and every other Red State where this kind of bill is headed? If you are the photographer who can truly prove to a panel of your peers randomly selected that your pain and suffering absent Bill #1062 is that much greater, I will personally buy you a home in Uganda!
In response to:

How Freedom Dies

Dante9 Wrote: Feb 25, 2014 9:41 PM
Yes, you are. Again, the greater loss in to the gay couple, not the so-called poor baker forced to honor something he or she finds horrible offensive. Of course, the fact that they find it so offensive is the real crime here. Despite Arizona's governors overly conservative and anti-immigrant nature, she will ultimately veto the law that eventually stands no chance to win in the courts. The mostly aging, angry white male AZ legislature that passed this discriminatory bill will soon learn that the their selfish, bigoted, religiously fueled and sanctimonious fight against the social justice in this very regard, and in all gay marriage related matters, is one more losing cause they are going to be forced to live with because they deserve no less. Bigots and homophobes are as they do.
In response to:

How Freedom Dies

Dante9 Wrote: Feb 25, 2014 3:20 PM
In my book, religious freedom is most purely personified in one's heart, mind and soul. You either believe what you truly believe or you don't. And if you really do believe, there is not need to wear it on your sleeve. Ever. But when you are gay and part of a persecuted minority by the likes of just about everyone reading this comment with quickly rising blood pressure, you can't really keep your identity at its core in just your mind, heart and soul. You can't do that if you want to hold your lover's hands or show you have just as much right to announce and celebrate your marriage where legally possible. Sleeves aren't sleeves when they remain solely in the closet. So how is it that someone's most devout religious beliefs are as equally violated in their hearts, minds and souls when they are asked to take a picture of a bride and bride or bake a cake for a groom and groom as these four individuals when their right to be recognized equally is slammed back in their face by the state statute no less? Or to use Buchanan's metaphor under his utopian world without civil right or bureaucrats, who is worse off: the black family refused service at a "white only restaurant" or the same restaurant owner who simply doesn't like black people and feels serving food to them alongside "his pure kind" is a violation of his personal beliefs? None of you can legitimately argue that you would be viscerally hurt if forced to bake a wedding cake for two homosexuals. If you say hogwash to that claim, you certainly don't possess the purity of those religious beliefs you so proudly relate as truly Christ-like and exemplary. But it's my personal religious belief that there is justice for all in the end and I thank Almighty God that your kind is both on the wrong side of the constantly changing history and soon going to be long gone from this world and held to account for your selfish attitudes and actions in the hereafter. And right behind Pad Buchanan.
In response to:

The 'We Can't Win' Wimps Caucus

Dante9 Wrote: Oct 19, 2013 1:30 AM
Actually, I won't. But if I did, I would take it, but then not label myself a a screaming mad Tea Party knucklehead who wants cut all gov't spending except what I am receiving because I never saved enough.
1 - 10 Next