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Beyond the Supreme Court: A Guide to Settling Gay Marriage

Dante9 Wrote: Dec 14, 2012 6:45 PM
And if not, which is what I surely believe would be the case, just like the idiocy of believing the world ends next Friday, and you discover that God's wrath didn't manifest itself when women were given the right to vote, blacks were freed and interracial marriage was legalized , you might realize that voicing such anger or things you can't control is a fruitless endeavor. But what you can control is the level homophobic hate in your heart for gay people and the sentiment that a likely Supreme Court outcome for gay rights is not going to be "forcing it down" anyone's throat. Laws are not forced, but sanctioned. The only thing you should count on is the inevitablity of gay marriage either before you die or after that.
Andy544 Wrote: Dec 14, 2012 8:37 PM
OK, Dante. We CAN agree on something: we BOTH think the other is a LIAR and deceived. On that note, we can part.
Dante9 Wrote: Dec 14, 2012 8:05 PM
Well ckeeping telling yourself that lie, Andy, because no matter what you think, 10 states have made it "acceptable" and a majority of the populous now polls to the same sentiment.

You cannot wish away what you don't like, dude. And calling what you think is a sin (a minority opinion and irrelevant in front of the Supreme Ct), punishable by "death" makes you look like a sad sack who can't handle anything about gay rights or lifestyle.

So my advice is to stop reading or thinking about the matter and get a life. Otherwise you will just raise your blood pressure and make people like me think less of you, and there are more and more of us reading TH every day. (One must know the enemy for strategy, plus a good laugh in this regard.)
Andy544 Wrote: Dec 14, 2012 7:32 PM
BTW.... I don't HATE 'gay people' (I prefer the more honest description, "homosexuals"----- 'gay' is a corruption and mis-use of a traditional English word that had quite a different connotation than has now been given it). I do hate LIES. And the LIE is that same sex marriage is a 'normal' acceptable alternative lifestyle that is worthy of sanction by the State. It is NOT.
Andy544 Wrote: Dec 14, 2012 7:30 PM
A deceitfful argument... typical of your bunch.... always mixing apples and oranges. Blacks being granted civil freedoms, and women being given the right to vote has NOTHING to do with granting perverts the right to engage in legalized sodomy masquerading as marriage. Being born "Black" is entirely normal and not a sin; being born a woman is entirely normal and not a sin. Civil rights should not have been denied to either group; granting equal protection under the law was simply rectifying a wrong. Homosexuality, on the other hand, IS a voluntary sin, like alcoholism, or murder, or child molesting, that leads to DEATH. ,,,,
nawlins72 Wrote: Dec 14, 2012 6:50 PM
"Laws are not forced, but sanctioned."

Minor quibble, but yes, laws are often "forced". That's what the executive branch is for.

As the U.S. Supreme Court prepares to tackle two gay marriage issues, those of us looking for some sweeping overall conclusions on the issue should temper our expectations.

The cases to be examined by the high court involve some specifics-- the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage Act, and the range of benefits the federal government should grant in states choosing to recognize gay unions.

Both will necessarily involve some examination of what role the federal government should play in matters of gay marriage, but neither is likely to settle the biggest questions:

What is the proper...