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Obama Ups Bid as GOP Looks For Way Out of Crisis

Daniel436 Wrote: Dec 11, 2012 3:00 PM
Why don't republicans vote "present" on a bill sponsored by Obama and the Democrats, and give Obama everything he wants, except the debt limit. (They can increase the debt limit to account for his projected deficits for 2 years, and no more.) Then they can hold a press conference predicting a recession if Obama signs this bill that NOT REPUBLICANS voted for, and force Obama and the democrats to own what happens.
Kibitzer Wrote: Dec 11, 2012 3:40 PM
And just how does that bill get passed in the house without any Republican votes? It doesn't!
Reginald10 Wrote: Dec 11, 2012 4:01 PM
Easy. The Republicans follow Obama's example, and vote "Present". There will be Democratic votes enough to win, and no Republican votes "Aye".

If any do, then we show them the door in 2014.
Kibitzer Wrote: Dec 11, 2012 6:49 PM
There are 435 members of the house. It takes 218 to for a majority to pass a bill. How do the Democrats pass the bill when they don't have the majority?

It's possible to have a strong hand and still overplay it. As Republicans see things, that's what President Obama is doing in the “fiscal cliff” negotiations.

In private conversation, some in the GOP appear a little sheepish about the fact that they once took the president seriously. Even though he had the upper hand after winning re-election, they thought he genuinely wanted to avoid going over the cliff and would negotiate in good faith. Then Obama sent Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner to Capitol Hill with a thumb-in-the-eye offer, and Republicans got the message.

In subsequent days, Obama has not...