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DanCobb Wrote: Jan 23, 2015 12:22 PM
Because powers from outside Pakistan have kept the government in Pakistan secular... at GREAT pains, by the way. Why do you think all the political turmoil is happening in Pakistan, much of it is to keep the nukes out of the hands of zealous religionists! No, I have a favorable view of Christianity as it is practiced today. I have a fairly favorable view of Hinduism, and Taoism, even Confusianism... Bhuddism... etc. My views are not based on some personal stake in a particular religion that blinds me to its faults. If one considers Christianity, it is unmistakable that the areas in the world where it is practiced have contributed the vast majority of progress in human society. I think Christianity has had to deal with the onslaughts of modern science and modern political philosophy (like Jeffersonian democracy) and I think Christianity has interacted with these developments quite well, with class and accommodation. Islam is still in a primitive stance that rejects even unequivocal facts! It's amazing how delusional the vast majority of Muslims are. Have you ever lived in a Muslim country? Or in a country where there is a large percentage of Muslims? It would knock your socks off. These people are remarkably superstitious and have very little capacity to accept facts that they find inconvenient or undesirable. The one word I consistently use to describe Islam is PRIMITIVE.... Ask a Japanese, or a Chinese or a Korean, or a Thai, or an Indian, or a Russian or a Brazilian or an American or a Canadian or a German or a Brit or an Italian...etc.etc. what they think of the way Muslim societies are set up/structured.... PRIMITIVE is a word they will agree on... Why? Because they are primitive societies. PRIMITIVE PRIMITIVE PRIMITIVE
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DanCobb Wrote: Jan 23, 2015 12:00 PM
I am human and have no religion. Your judgment is clouded by your affinity for your religious sect, whichever it may be. Again, had you been taken from your parents and town when you were 2 years old, and were you to have been raised by devout Muslims in, say, Algeria... today you Mickum would be espousing the 100% correctness of the cult of Allah, and you would be denigrating all other religions. YOu might even want to fight jihad against Christians.... your religious zealotry says more about your zealous personality than it does about anything else. Sorry. So long as you continue to be confounded by the provenance of your religious beliefs, you will fail to understand the circumstances that the west is facing... you will be doing the "Crusade" thing and ENGAGING Islam.... like we've done over and over and over again through history. To destroy Islam is to allow it to rot is its own putrid, idle, unproductive, lazy juices without engagement from the Orient or from the West.
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DanCobb Wrote: Jan 23, 2015 11:54 AM
I disagree that it takes a religion to fight a religion. Everything and anything can be a religion. All world religions are patchworks of previous religions and added theisms. What you need to defeat Islam is KNOWLEDGE that Western societies are vastly superior to Muslim societies and KNOWLEDGE that Muslim societies are primitive, tribal and incapable of living in western societies along the rules of western societies. THIS INFORMATION and ACTING on this INFORMATION is critical. The Islamic world is moribund. The only reason why there are jihaddists today is because the Muslims are getting some money from the ground (their oil). Saudis are supporting reactionary madrassas around the world. The WEST MUST: 1) expel all Muslims -the Spaniards did it 600 years ago, we need to do it again 2) allow the Muslim world to wallow in its primitiveness for generations if necessary.... to let it evolve to the point where it has some modicum of chance of interacting with the rest of the world in a civilized way [this is obviously a huge undertaking, but I think it is necessary for saving the world). 3) detach from the Muslim world altogether --which will require new innovations in the energy sector. --let's face it, the Muslim world has produced nothing of value to the furtherance of human society in the last 800 years. Their religion is the provenance of their primitiveness. Let them get beyond the notion of religious preachers being their political leaders... once they learn that everyone is better off with civil government and secular governance, they will slowly bend along the inevitable arc of human social evolution.... Now, they truly are in the stone age when it comes to social development, so this might take hundreds if not thousands of years... but I think it's the only way. BTW, one of the most crucial elements is to disengage from them because all the the modern Kalishnakovs and other weapons they are availing themselves of are ALL 100% due to innovations in either the west or the far east. NOTHING of the damaging technologies they use was ever developed by a Muslim. Ever. Neither are any of the modern communication methods they use to co-ordinate terrorist activities. Had we disengaged from them 50 years ago, they would still be using land lines to make their terror connections... We should completely restrict as much as possible their access to modern technology.
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DanCobb Wrote: Jan 23, 2015 10:59 AM
Here's the problem with your average Muslim: A host of a talk show in the UK was asking people in the audience questions about tolerance. He asked a Brit wearing a T-shirt with a characature of Mohammed on it if the woman sitting behind him should legally be allowed to wear a niqab... and he said yes. Then he asked the woman if the Brit should be allowed to wear the T-shirt he was wearing and she looked at it, and said "No.". There you have it in a nutshell. The Muslims expect westerners BY LAW to "respect" their religion AND Muslims expect to have complete right to define what they perceive as disrespecting their religion. Eventually you end up with Muslim clerics telling British women to cover their bodies in a potato sack because their dresses and blouses are disrespectful to their Islamic religion. That's primitive thinking that has no notion of civil rights, the rights of man, the Bill of Rights... period. The Imams control what is and what may be. I urge TOWNHALL readers to look up on line the 1979 Iranian Constitution. It's kind of a fun/hilarious read by American standards. It makes all the nods to the west's notion of freedom and liberty... with hilarious caveats: Things like: All Iranians will have total freedom of speech and expression, within the constraints of Islam. Women have equal rights to men, within the meaning of Islam. All people have the right to association, within the meaning of Islam. ...... It seems like Iran wants to appear modern with a fancy Constitution and what-not, but it's a primitive religion based horror-story.... essentially the "Constitution" is whatever the Iman of the day says it is. . . NOT very Constitutional!
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DanCobb Wrote: Jan 23, 2015 10:51 AM
What's not to understand? It's quite plain and easily understood.
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DanCobb Wrote: Jan 23, 2015 10:50 AM
I'd say that their goal IS to get us out of their lands AND to destroy everything that doesn't bow down to Allah. And we have to realize that they are zealots who believe that an exchange of nuclear weapons would result in Allah giving them control of the world... because in their primitive zealotry they believe that somehow Allah will stop the west's nukes from cooking the Muslim countries and the Imam's nuclear weapons will surely hit their targets with maximum effect.
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DanCobb Wrote: Jan 23, 2015 10:47 AM
It was a fool's errand before the invasion of Iraq... and it is a fool's errand after the invasion of Iraq and it will be a fool's errand centuries from now. These are primitive tribal peoples.... and they have always been so. Bush and Cheney knew full well what the deal was... but the oil was just too appealing. The purple fingers dipped in paint was their farce on the American people whose mind-set is so ensconced in the evolved notion of Jeffersonian democracy that we can't even imagine the political chaos and unformed polity of the middle east. We think "America-think" and assume Iraqis have the same underlying aspirations and understandings... this just isn't so. They are P R I M I T I V E with primitive customs and primitive notions of societal (un)formation. When we "train and equip" the "Iraqis" to fight their own battles.... we're showing just how lacking in understanding we are of the ethos of Iraqi society. That gun you just gave Mohammed ... well that's a source for some money to buy a new scooter. And that uniform you asked him to don today...well, he'll take it off and hide if tonight. Keep paying him the weekly stipend and he might show up ... or not... depends on what Uncle Ali is saying to him at dinner the night before.
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DanCobb Wrote: Jan 23, 2015 10:40 AM
Sorry, but look around you. The pinnacle of all human societies has occurred ONLY in societies that are the most secular humanist. Are you suggesting that societies governed by religious leadership are more... what... more advanced? More ethical? More vital? Please, name one such society. . . . just one.
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DanCobb Wrote: Jan 23, 2015 10:32 AM
Religion is of little consequence. Your religious belief is nothing more than early indocrination in life (brainwashing). Ask yourself this question: If you were kidnapped from your, say, Christian parents when you were 2 years old and taken to be raised by a devout Muslim family in Algeria.... wouldn't you today be espousing the truths of the Koran and praising Allah. I think you most certainly would be doing so. It doesn't matter what religion you belong to, if you're zealous, you will espouse zealous ideas and theology. Here's the deal: the Muslims (and yes, primitive Christians, though there are very few) need to educated out of their jihaddism... out of their fog. They need to learn about all the wonderful things in the world... the hard and soft science, music, art, math, you name it. Even other peoples' religious beliefs. This will allow them to become intelligent and open-minded enough to realize that their religious beliefs are little more than the result of socialization/brainwashing -typically early in life. Let's face it, the religiously brainwashed ayatollahs and imams probably would have little hesitation using an N-bomb on the USA because they're probably quite certain that Allah will see to it that they win whatever war the choose to start. [Yes we have similarly primitive and zealous Christians in the west, but they are few and far between. The West has had the benefit of the Age of Reason, the Age of Enlightenment, the Renaissance, the Information Age, the Space Age.... all of which included remarkable developments in science and political philosophy, so much so that the vast majority of us are not real believers like most Muslims are. We realize that much of what is in the Bible is either NOT true, not accurate, or just odd artifact from 2000 years ago. Our closer relationship with reality and truth, science and understanding the world around us has allowed us to evolve past a primitive religion- based, superstitious society. Muslim nations are still THAT primitive. And we need to deal with them without any illusions as to just how primitive they are.
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DanCobb Wrote: Jan 23, 2015 10:20 AM
Here's the issue: Muslim nations are universally primitive. All the world looks on their customs (mostly borne of religious attitudes) as primitive. These are cultures that were literally in the stone age only two generations ago. They are profoundly backwards and undeveloped. Only military dictatorships have prevented these nations from becoming Islamic Republics. These nations are unevolved and over time --probably at an accelerated rate given today's technology-- they will transition into a more civilzed future. But this could take quite some time! Generations, at least. These people are utterly uneducated.... the only thing they know about business is the Koran... the only thing they know about social science is the Koran, the only thing they know about earth science is what's in the Koran, the only thing they know about physics, chemistry, germ theory, is the Koran.... etc. etc. They utterly consumed with their religion and their "Allah". No wonder they're so religiously sensitive. I think T. S. Eliot and Mr. Buchanan have it backwards. You don't fight Islam with "another God" or another religion. You fight Islam with broadening the horizons of a massive group of ignorant, primitive people. Wherever education has taken root --true broad education-- not "education" where the only thing you learn is the "Koran".... religious fundamentalism withers. But the Muslims are currently hostile to education... they see it as threatening. In Europe many of the Muslim leaders urge their people NOT to learn the local language, NOT to integrate at all into European society. In fact one of the most ostensibly modern Muslim leaders --the vile R. Erdogan of Turkey-- has held speeches at huge soccer stadiums in Germany where he literally urges the 2 millions Muslim in Germany to resist integration at all costs. The only forward is to expel all Muslims from Europe. Period. And for western governments to get off the teat of Mid-Eastern oil. Prevent the Muslims from traveling anywhere outside of the Umma....Muslim nations. If they don't do this, they will be doomed to a future that is as muddy and ugly as that of Kosovo, Serbia, Bosnia, etc.
You know, the fact is that there are a fair number of workers in the US State Department and many of them having been working hard to keep Muslims out of this country! I say: MORE POWER TO YA! We owe a massive debt of gratitude to them . . . especially in the future. For every one Muslim that is kept out of this country now, we will be that much better off in the future. IN 2 generations Europeans who are increasingly going to be placed under Shariah law, will be clamoring and begging to immigrate to the US.
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