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The Founders of this nation warned us that only a virtuous people can govern themselves for long -- no matter how perfect a government they devise. What we have today is nothing short of bureaucratic tyranny. The bureaucracy is faceless and soulless, without virtue of any kind. Every politician since the Founding has added to the mess we find ourselves in today -- God help us if we don't start to reverse this trend!
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dan17 Wrote: Feb 13, 2014 12:50 AM
A drop of cynicism makes a good catalyst for sound reasoning. However, you seem to be intoxicated with it. That said, I respect deep thinking, as long as it is tempered with true humility. Humility is not thinking less of yourself, it's thinking of yourself less. C. S. Lewis
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dan17 Wrote: Feb 12, 2014 11:44 AM
It is not necessary for the entirety of society to be religious, only that a spiritual underpinning exists to shore up the moral base; which for America, happens to be Christianity. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness." This self-evident truth was conceptualized by exceptional men, who came together in common experience, with a common religious underpinning, during an era of scientific and philosophical enlightenment. Their common perception of reality gave us the greatest and most successful experiment in government the world has ever known.
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dan17 Wrote: Feb 12, 2014 11:14 AM
They come from the combined experience of mankind who, by the way, has always recognized the hand of providence in one form, or another.
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dan17 Wrote: Feb 12, 2014 11:00 AM
Examples of "observable fact". Because , I submit to you that the opposite is true.
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dan17 Wrote: Feb 12, 2014 10:37 AM
That is precisely why they need god.
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dan17 Wrote: Feb 12, 2014 10:33 AM
A little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion. Francis Bacon
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dan17 Wrote: Feb 12, 2014 10:26 AM
Examples?
This is precisely what happens to a country that loses it's moral base. Corporatism, whether formed by crony-capitalism or out right Facism is the end result. A free market and a free people can only survive when discipline and ethics are the rule, not the exception.
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dan17 Wrote: Feb 12, 2014 9:59 AM
Without God man is at the mercy of a seemingly chaotic and merciless universe. God does not need man. Man needs God to complete himself. Without the belief in a higher power, man's ego will ride roughshod over the world. Just look at the state of our society today. Remember...Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. Proverbs 16:18
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