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Palestine Officially Recognized by the UN

DagNabbit Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 7:11 PM
Well, since Israel was manufactured out of thin air, why shouldn't Palestine be? I completely agree with everyone here that Palestine has not been a country. Until now. Its birth is exactly the same as Israel's. Deal with it.
Bob_K Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 7:27 PM
"Palestine" was never a country. But the Arabs in the middle east could have given them plenty of desert to start a country, which is what Israel got. Of course, they didn't, because the rest of the Arab middle east doesn't care anything about the palestinians. Deal with it.
Joel176 Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 7:15 PM
There is a history of Israel that exceeds 2,000 years. There is no history of a palestine.
psydoc Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 7:18 PM
However, it is a true statement.
DagNabbit Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 7:18 PM
Bzzzzt! Dead wrong! There have been JEWS on that land for thousands of years, but not Israel. There have also been Arabs on the land. And both Transjordan and Israel were created by....EUROPEANS, who have NOT been on the land that long.

So, genius, when do we give North America back to the Indians? I suggest we start with your house.
Hardrock Lausanne Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 7:19 PM
You sure? Herodotus didn't mention palestine in the 5th century b.c.e.?
DagNabbit Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 7:21 PM
They're amusing in their ignorance, aren't they?
Hardrock Lausanne Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 7:28 PM
Dagnabbit, It makes me a little sad that there is a whole wealth of information on this issue that they're not receiving. But in the end I suppose I understand their hatred for Palestine (without knowing much about it/them) and support of Israel: It is both religious and tied thematically to the Greatest Generation of WWII. It comes down to nostalgia. I feel wrong laughing at them for it though.
IsraelFirsterSecond Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 7:34 PM
There never was a Palestine.
psydoc Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 7:42 PM
That is because there has never been a palestinian state.

The rule of Israelites in the land of Israel starts with the conquests of Joshua (ca. 1250 BCE). The most noteworthy kings were King David (1010-970 BCE), who made Jerusalem the Capital of Israel, and his son Solomon (Shlomo, 970-931 BCE), who built the first Temple in Jerusalem as prescribed in the Tanach (Old Testament).
psydoc Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 7:43 PM
I wish we could just post a thumbs up. Right-on, Joel.
psydoc Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 8:25 PM

Why do we still support the UN?

Despite recent conflict in Gaza, which erupted after Israel decided to no longer tolerate the constant barrage of rocket fire across its border, the UN General Assembly has decided to recognize Palestine as a state. This afternoon, it granted Palestine “non-member observer state” status.

Doing nothing to ease US and Israel’s apprehension regarding the vote, UN Secretary General sent out a mistaken tweet urging a one-state solution:

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This slip up highlights the tension surrounding the issue. Pushing statehood through the UN will only...