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Can a Christian Vote for a Non-Christian Candidate?

cwilson482 Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 12:53 PM
If this implies that Mitt Romney is not a Christian, that is entirely and catagorically incorrect. Mormons most definitely are Christians. That is why their church is called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to distinguish them from the early Christian Church. The only non Christian in this race is Barak Obama and let's get that straight once and for all. He is quoted as saying in the book, The Audacity of Hope that if things get ugly he will stand with the Muslims. That will never happen with Mitt Romney. I MEAN NEVER!
Mark in CA Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 1:15 PM
cwilson482 and anyone else reading this, Mormonism is NOT Christianity. There are a great many differences between the two belief systems. Let's take just one important differnence, that being how the two beliefs view the Bible.

Per Christian theology:
"Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it" Deuteronomy 4:2. Also, see Revelation 22 18-19 regarding the curses that shall be upon anyone who adds to or takes away from the words of the Bible.

Per Mormon theology:
"Thou fool, that shall say, A Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible... Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible, ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye suppose that I have not...
hillplus Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 1:22 PM
So, any scripture written after Deuteronomy is adding to the word and therefore not acceptable. Got it.
ConcealedCarry Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 1:27 PM
hill, it is obvious you either smoke weed, or drink heavily, or both. Your IQ is severely diminished.
Ind Observer Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 1:27 PM
Would you be referring to Deuteronomy 4:2?
Mark in CA Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 1:52 PM
hillplus, it is unwise to take Scripture out of context and try to use it to undermine or invalidate Scripture.

". . .Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." 2nd Peter 3:15-16





Verbivore Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 1:14 PM
oh please. That debate has been settled. Mormonism is a sect, an off shoot of Christianity. The debate is over. Being good will never get you into heaven. But i agree with you....Romney will stand with America and with the Christians, not the Muslims!
ConcealedCarry Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 1:15 PM
As a Christian, I can confirm that many Mormons ARE Christians. This is a fact.

Mormonism, as a religion, is NOT a Christian religion. This is also a fact.
ConcealedCarry Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 1:15 PM
As a Christian, I can confirm that many Mormons ARE Christians. This is a fact.

Mormonism, as a religion, is NOT a Christian religion. This is also a fact.
Verbivore Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 1:29 PM
Do tell? How can members of a non-christian faith, also be members of a Christian faith? Completely illogical. Also, "mormons are Christians," is a FACT?? how do you know...how can you pretend to know the salvific status of anyone?
Mark in CA Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 1:37 PM
ConcealedCarry, one cannot be a Mormon AND a Christian at the same time. One is either a Mormon OR a Christian.

Granted, there may be Christians who happen to attend Mormon churches. But if so, it is because said Christians are woefully ignorant concerning what the Bible teaches.

As soon as said Christians get properly informed, they wil shortly thereafter depart from attending their Mormon churches and start fellowshiping at Bible believing churches.
Chries Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 1:38 PM
Verivore, you're not a Christian, are you? If you were a Christian, you would realize the truth in CC's statement. A Muslim can be a Christian, a Jew can be a Christian, a Mormon can be a Christian. However, Muslimism, Judaism, and Mormonism are not Christian religions.
Chries Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 1:41 PM
Mark, I have many Mormon friends who are Christians. Some of them have left the Mormon Church, others are still active in the Mormon Church. Most Mormons who are pursuing Christ in a dynamic way eventually recognize the conflict between their Christian conversion and the tenets of Joseph Smith. This does not negate the fact that they are Christians while they are Mormons.
Mark in CA Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 2:01 PM
Chries, they are not truly Mormons then. They are Christians who attend Mormon churches. Perhaps they do so to evangelize Mormons. God knows. But they are not getting corporate fellowship by attending Mormon churches.
t252 Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 3:41 PM
The big fallacy here is that fallible humans get to decide who are Christians and who are not. They don't. Christ decides who is Christian. Christ said "believe in me". Mormons believe in Christ, thus mormons are Christian.
Catholics don't get to decide.
Protestants don't get to decide.
Methodists don't get to decide.
Evangelicals don't get to decide.
etc.
t252 Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 3:43 PM
the last few comments are circular nonsense. Mormons believe in Christ, that makes them Christians, by definition.
Mark in CA Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 3:50 PM
You are discounting our God given ability to choose the One who chooses us.

Also, examine the "Christ" a person believes in.

The Jesus of the Bible is absolute and eternal Deity. Scripture reveals this in John 1:1, Romans 9:5, Titus 2:13 and Hebrews 1:8. He was and is eternally God the Son. His eternal Sonship is presented biblically in John 1:18, Colossians 1:12-19, Hebrews 1:8 and Psalm 2:7.

Mark in CA Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 3:50 PM
The Mormon Jesus became a God through his obedience and consistent effort in his pre-existent state. (See The Gospel Through The Ages, page 51 by M. R. Hunter.) He became a son of God just as our children are sons. (See Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. 1, page 12 by J. F. Smith.)
t252 Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 3:58 PM
as a mormon I can confirm that mormons are christians, I can also confirm that many so called "Christians" are not.
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– 1Timothy 2:1-2

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