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Let’s Have That Conversation About Guns

creckerts Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 10:21 AM
The one thing I really want to say to the american people is with the Second Amendment, you're not keeping and bearing Arms to provide yourself a security of a free State. You're just providing the security of a prison. And your neighbours, friends and everybody on the other side of the door are the guards. The Second Amendment was written in a time where this was necessary. But that was a long time ago, wake up and smell the coffee. The world has changed. If you say that you're a Christian country. Act like it. Show some mercy and trust to other people. Crazy people like at Newton will always exist. But it's way much easier for them to find a gun in the States then in the rest of the world. Do something about it. Don't ignore your problems
erick24 Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 7:41 PM
You don't live here friend. You think you know my nation's history but you don't. Our founder's were wise men who understood human nature. They knew power corrupts and that the day might come when freedom loving patriots might have to defend their rights against corrupt men. " The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
BO said we are not a Christian nation. Considering we kill innocent humans in the womb, celebrate sexual deviancy, and teach our children in the state schools that there is no God, no good and evil and that they are of no more value than bald eagles I think I agree with you.
Jerome64 Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 1:01 PM
The fact that fascists like you have to think about kicking in my door because I may be armed means that the mission of providing a FREE state is accomplished.
It is much easier to get a gun in the US than it is in Russia and I'll gladly take our ease of acquiring guns over their violent crime rate any and every time.
creckerts Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 4:36 PM
In holland we have a saying: "fear is a bad advisor". And you're all reasoning out of fear. And incorrect data.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime-total-crimes

check the statistics. 5 times more crime then russia. Almost twice as much as the runner up.

If maybe more then 1% of the US even tried to visit other countries. You'd now that the rest of the world is a much safer place. I've been to eastern europa, europe, asia, middle east (safer then europe). They all are and feel saver and more secure then your home country. Matter of fact, most people of those countries won't consider visiting the US because your crimes are way up and everybody has a gun and will use it out of (illogical) fear.

olerocker/bluesman Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 12:17 PM
Your not an Aussie or English or you would read their post on other sites telling not to give up our guns....and the world has changed from bad to worst....only a fool would trust other people, look at the people who trust the Prez....why? For welfare and food stamps.....I trust no one but God almighty and I will own and carry firearms as long as I live....the laws mean nothing....we let illegals over our boders, dope dealers sell on our street corners...and our own goverment is in the giving away guns to Mexico and allows murders in Libya. Oh yes,laws, trust and mercy, just words.

Madgorilla Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 11:17 AM
There's an old saying from back in the days of the Texas Republic. "Praise God and pass the ammunition!"

If we had a lot more of that today, we'd have a hell of lot less of incidents like Newtown, Columbine, and the Colorado theater. Let God worry about my soul. I'll worry about my body.
LibertysSon Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 10:51 AM
Jesus' words were said long ago. I guess we should consider those irrelevant now too, by your logic.
If you lived next door to Lanza, trust would be the wrong choice. You are well intentioned but your logic is incorrect.
creckerts Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 5:03 PM
That's correct. His words were said a long time ago. So just like the second amendment, we have to put them to the test of time.
erick24 Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 7:44 PM
Enough of this "we" c r a p. You seem content where you live so myob.

For once I agree with liberals. It’s high time to have a conversation about guns. Let’s start with the problem that there are far too few guns on our streets.

Wait, we can’t have that conversation. In fact, we’re not supposed to have what people might commonly describe as a “conversation” at all. We’re supposed to shut-up and listen as liberals, barely masking their unseemly delight at the opportunity, try to pin the murder rampage of one degenerate creep on millions of law-abiding Americans who did nothing wrong. The conversation is then supposed to end with us waiving our fundamental right...