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Obama's Misery Index

cpurvis768 Wrote: Sep 21, 2012 12:55 AM
Don't have the 'tools' to measure unemployment? How about this: Do about a 1200 person poll and ask them, "Are you presently employed?" Where did we ever get the notion that using unemployment payments was an accurate way of measuring unemployment?
Mother of 4 -- the original Wrote: Sep 21, 2012 7:15 AM
You want to know how incompetent the people at the unemployment office really are?

The other day I was on the phone with them asking for the info so I could apply to a "by referral only" job. The woman said, "I see you're a sewer. Have you applied to XYZ?"

I explained to her, "XYZ is the company I'm laid off from. They've laid off nearly 200 people in the last 6 months."

Her reply, "Oh. I have seen a lot from there. But they've always been a bit of a revolving door."

Wouldn't you think that, with my records open on the screen in front of her face, she just *might* have been capable of noticing that XYZ was at the top of my employment history?
D G Wrote: Sep 21, 2012 1:15 AM
Good question.
Department of labor does keep a tally of continuing claims meaning a count of people collecting benefits.

The unemployment numbers come from another source of Labor Dept data. It is the BLS household survey.

They do basically ask a sample of people your question; although it is a bit more complex than that.

To give you an idea how bad the jobs report released on Friday is, consider this fact: The employment situation in the country is so bad that economists can’t accurately measure it with the existing tools they use to measure jobs. In other words, we have entered a period in our country not contemplated by economists. They simply don’t have the tools to measure what’s actually occurring in the jobs market.

Modern economists never imagined a scenario in which a country with as much wealth, power and innovation as United States could stretch out a jobs recession as long as...